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Petimar - Posted - 12/01/2020: 12:01:39
You don't necessarily need to know the names of the notes to be a great fiddler, but in case you do, here is a PDF chart that may help.
Swing - Posted - 12/01/2020: 16:29:09
Great, that will help me figure out the high notes on HOT CANARY
Play Happy
Swing
buckhenry - Posted - 12/01/2020: 16:41:11
quote:
Originally posted by Swing
Great, that will help me figure out the high notes on HOT CANARY
Play Happy
Swing
Here you go, sorry about the rough sketch...
Swing - Posted - 12/01/2020: 16:47:45
Merci Beaucoup buck henry!!
Play Happy
Swing
Joel Glassman - Posted - 12/07/2020: 20:51:39
I have a shortcut for memorizing note names.
This works for the most common keys and the *most common finger
placements* in those keys. These are not rules, just tendencies
and the exceptions should be memorized
The 3rd finger [low position] is the same note as the next lower string.
[ie. the 3rd finger on A is a D note. Same note not same pitch.]
The 4th finger is the same pitch as the next higher string.
[4th finger on A is an E note]
The first finger [high position] is whole step above the open string
[remembering that the E string note is an F#]
I memorized the second string notes, which I think
of in high and low positions. You can think of them this way:
They are the second arpeggio tones from the open strings.
Second finger high position = D-F#-A = D major = 1 3 & 5 tones
Second finger low position = D-F-A = D minor = 1 b3 & 5 tones
This is useful because the arpeggios are so important
in the open string keys. They are how chords are spelled.
Edited by - Joel Glassman on 12/07/2020 20:54:44
groundhogpeggy - Posted - 12/12/2020: 09:43:01
I really have a hard time relating to note names...seems like code...to me, I like to just go by interval...if you know the sound of each interval (Major 3rd, Perfect 4th, Perfect 5th, any of them) then whatever key or whatever tuning you are in, you can manage pretty well. If you need a note, you have to first spend the time and effort deciphering the code...at least that's how my brain works. Thinking in intervals, for me, works instantly, no matter what key or what tuning.
Kinda like chord progressions...if somebody says to go to the four chord, you don't have to know who's in what tuning, who's capoed where or what key you're in...you just know the sound of the four chord...easy to get your brain used to those intervals and the chord progressions that go with the intervals...then it's instant where you go, no matter what exact note it will require...you don't have to know or care what the note is. That's just me. But if i tried to play or know by note, it would be a long and dreadful process of figuring and deciphering and translating code from letter name to what sound to make on an instrument...just me...but must be true for some others too.
TuneWeaver - Posted - 12/12/2020: 12:07:43
Using the ABC notation system requires knowing the note names.. and believe it or not, it is EASY (not yelling) to get them in your head... In my case, I LOOKED at the fingerboard so intently that I can now just close my eyes and SEE the notes all laid out as if I was looking at a photograph.. After all these years, it still surprises me how I see it..
Edited by - TuneWeaver on 12/12/2020 12:09:04
Skookum - Posted - 12/13/2020: 13:02:22
I'm with Peggy on this. If someone says "play a IV chord" I go to the arpeggio of a chord that starts on the fourth note of the scale of the key I'm playing in and build from there. I would know what the interval note sounds like but I also have to know immediately where to place my fingers to make that sound. I could figure out the name for whatever note I'm playing but it's a chore, usually involving counting on my fingers.
I've learned the scales of the keys I normally play in taking note of the number representing the degree (1- 8) of each note of that scale. Then I make sure my fingers know the arpeggios of those scales, since therein lies the chords and how they're constructed.
Pretty soon it becomes clear, for instance, that the interval of the fifth is always right across from whatever note I'm playing, and the third is on the string below and a half step lower than that note. That way, when someone says "go to the III chord" I can instantly build and play parts of a chord based on that note. It's easier to do than to explain.
As my knowledge grows this lets me to play on the fly in any key as long as I know the root, the scale intervals, and what the chords are likely to be without ever having to know the names of the notes. With a little practice I can play in keys I don't even know the names of.
Not sure this method works for others but someone who plays totally by ear it takes the mystery out of playing music, particularly in playing with others, and gradually allows for improvisation, etc. Mostly it seems to cut down on all the stuff I needed to know in order to get up on the curve.
BTW, Pete Martin is the greatest!
