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TuneWeaver - Posted - 05/11/2019:  13:38:43


I had hoped to discuss how sheet music fails to always represent how a tune could sound, but have decided to not peruse the issue.. I suspect that there is a way to delete this topic but for the life of me, can't figure out ow to do it..!!!


Edited by - TuneWeaver on 05/11/2019 16:51:18

Lonesome Fiddler - Posted - 05/11/2019:  15:20:38


Sounds like you received some quality transcriptions. It's nice, too, that you are brave enough to defy the authorities that can plague this hobby and to launch a new tune into the OT universe.  Then again, it might help the tune be accepted if you make up a bogus history for your opus.  How 'bout, "Well, Salyer got roaring drunk one night, fell asleep and started snoring out this tune.  Salyer's wife heard it, and the next morning she hummed it while shopping for groceries.  Luckily, there was a fiddler nearby with a good ear."


Edited by - Lonesome Fiddler on 05/11/2019 15:32:37

TuneWeaver - Posted - 05/11/2019:  15:26:34


I knew this would get me in trouble..!!!wink  As I've said about other topics,



This is for FUN



I'm not an authority



It is all debatable..



So...While I LOVE the bare bones versions.. I know that there is a lot more to "This Hobby'' than sheet music... 

TuneWeaver - Posted - 05/11/2019:  15:37:06


OK, maybe I Won't delete the topic...I don't mean to sound ungrateful to my friend who so graciously put my tune to music.. I"m referring to all sheet music ...it should only be used as a guide and should not be considered the definitive way to play a tune.

buckhenry - Posted - 05/11/2019:  17:25:47


quote:

Originally posted by TuneWeaver

 sheet music fails to always represent how a tune could sound, 






I would say 'sheet music' can never represent completely how a tune could sound, no matter which 'genre' of music you are talking about. The music would be illegible if it included all inflections and variations.  It is possible to interpret a piece of music many different ways and that is before any notes are added or altered, and it is impossible to play it the same way twice. But we need the 'bare bones' to work from. 

Lonesome Fiddler - Posted - 05/11/2019:  18:08:54


quote:

Originally posted by buckhenry

quote:

Originally posted by TuneWeaver

 sheet music fails to always represent how a tune could sound, 






I would say 'sheet music' can never represent completely how a tune could sound, no matter which 'genre' of music you are talking about. The music would be illegible if it included all inflections and variations.  It is possible to interpret a piece of music many different ways and that is before any notes are added or altered, and it is impossible to play it the same way twice. But we need the 'bare bones' to work from. 






I wholeheartedly agree.  Take it.  Run with it.

FiddlerPaul71 - Posted - 05/11/2019:  18:17:34


Dots on sheet music are to playing music as printed words are to speech. Words merely printed on a page cannot fully indicate inflection, tone, feeling, style, etc. But in knowing and understanding our language, we are able to put meaning and feeling into those printed words so they are not just sounds. Same thing goes for music.

carlb - Posted - 05/12/2019:  04:56:20


Interpretation is everything. For tunes, where there is no recorded source, one has to play them over and over to try and find how to make it into a tune. I did that for one of the Bayard (Dance to the Fiddle, March to the Fife) tunes "Cheat River". I did pass the tune to others. Then, about 7 years later, I heard the recorded source and found I did a pretty good job.



One has to think about the phrases as old time tunes are generally written without any classical music type indicators. There are some valuable transcriptions out there for which there is no recorded version. Try them, bring them back.

UsuallyPickin - Posted - 05/12/2019:  08:33:24


Notation is the first rung on a ladder. It's not written on stone. Who knows maybe some is somewhere. Also "other versions" are usually available. While the provenance of a piece of music is important it remains that the performance of that music is what brings it to the table. R/

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