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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Why DON"T you enter fiddle contests?


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TuneWeaver - Posted - 05/01/2019:  12:32:19


In my case there several reasons..

1. I've heard other fiddlers play... and I've heard myself.

2. I get "red light fever'' when a recorder goes on of when I see people WATCHING.

3. I play around with version so much that I KNOW I'll screw up in a contest.

4. Just plain 'chicken'.

5. "Have nothing to prove". That is a lie.. I'd love to prove something, but because of reasons 1 through 4...just can't get up there



It is interesting. I can busk all day, or play for a contra-dance all night and I'm not nervous...but the thought of playing just ONE tune ...WELL.. in a contest terrifies me..



As someone who teaches.. you'd think that I could demonstrate to a crowd,  my skills... but, lo and behold.. can't.



 


Edited by - TuneWeaver on 05/01/2019 12:34:05

DougD - Posted - 05/01/2019:  12:44:14


I don't trust the judges.

TuneWeaver - Posted - 05/01/2019:  12:51:44


Thanks, Doug.
6. Don't trust the judges..

A little more seriously..I know that there are people walking around festivals taping musicians.. Maybe there could be an ad-hoc contest where the Best jam session could be voted on?

TuneWeaver - Posted - 05/01/2019:  12:55:50


I'd rather BE a judge.. At least I'll know just how intimidated some contestants will be..!!!

TuneWeaver - Posted - 05/01/2019:  13:12:13


Think about it.. I'm are going up NEXT.... Just before you were Dan Gellert, Jake Krack, Rhys Jones.....What chance could I possibly have??cheeky



The tunes I've posted here on the Hangout are mostly demonstration tunes that I'm Workin' on.. not how I ultimately play..  I don't post here more because I know that what comes out will not be typical of my playing...so.. A contest would be the same.. Just me messing around... Often I think of how I'd play a tune for a contest and I just get muddled.. so many variations... so many TUNES... I just give up.. I'll stick to jamming.


Edited by - TuneWeaver on 05/01/2019 13:17:48

Fiddler - Posted - 05/01/2019:  14:45:16


Why don't I enter contests?



I don't need to prove anything to anybody! Besides, as Doug mentioned, I don't trust the judges either. They have their biases and it won't matter if you played at a very high technical level. If you're not (insert your favorite fiddler in that region), you ain't gonna even place.



Now some "contests" are merely opportunities for fiddlers to play on stage. "Prize" is just fun stuff - nothing serious.  It's a performance and I take it as that. I have done a few of these over the years, but I prefer just having fun playing with others.

BanjoBrad - Posted - 05/01/2019:  14:48:16


1) I don't get out to festivals, contests, jams, etc.
2) I haven't picked up any of my instruments for at least the last 3 months.
3) I only had about 3 tunes that I could even make it through with minimal errors even then.

buckhenry - Posted - 05/01/2019:  15:25:25


quote:

Originally posted by TuneWeaver

 Often I think of how I'd play a tune for a contest 






I think you are just itching to play a contest, hence the reason you posted this topic.



Just do it Lee, play like it's the last time you'll ever play.



Play like your life depended on it.



You don't need to play great, you are already great.



You are entertaining and you give your own special flavour to the music.



This is simple, this easy, this is fun and allow your self to make this many mistakes.



Your level of proficiency is NOT important.



Visualize playing well and think of the times you played well in the past.



Give thanks for the experience of playing music and for the last breath you just took.



 



 

Old Scratch - Posted - 05/01/2019:  18:03:44


I've gone in a few small contests, and did all right in them, but only entered in order to Do My Part to contribute to a community event. Essentially, though, I just think they're stupid, to put it bluntly. Music-making should not be a competitive sport.

Astrang - Posted - 05/01/2019:  18:18:09


Cause some ten year old little girl just blew me out the back door

Lonesome Fiddler - Posted - 05/01/2019:  18:48:52


I entered a few. I was ignored in the cattle call. In time, I lost my jones to play in the genres/style the judges always preferred. In other words, I realized I just wasn't a contest fiddler.  ...much happier now, too.


Edited by - Lonesome Fiddler on 05/01/2019 18:49:34

bees - Posted - 05/01/2019:  19:53:42


I have played very low level contests just to see if I could do it without screwing up too badly. Never expected to win anything, and didn't, and didn't screw up too badly either. It's amazing how a shot of adrenaline can totally mess with your playing...

soppinthegravy - Posted - 05/02/2019:  01:09:57


Most of the old-timers I've talked to around home don't involve themselves in the contests because it takes away from time they would rather spend jamming, chatting, eating, etc.

ChickenMan - Posted - 05/02/2019:  05:56:51


I like to enter at Clifftop and the Iowa State Fair, both of them because I am there anyway, and because that little shot of adrenaline is about the only time I get serious butterflies these days, which is refreshing. I have friends who play in the state fair contest and some of them have moved away so that is the only time I can see and play with them.



My first time at Clifftop I followed a hotshot little kid (who placed in his division) and was followed by Roger Netherton. Last year I went up after several of the heavy hitters were done. It’s no big thing, just something to do if the mood strikes. It usually amplifies how being uptight affects my playing and is a great reminder to lighten up and enjoy the ride. I can always play through the ‘nerves’ and get to that point of enjoyment; the trick is to get over it before I go up rather than 30 seconds after I start playing wink

docmarc - Posted - 05/02/2019:  09:57:20


quote:

Originally posted by Old Scratch

I've gone in a few small contests, and did all right in them, but only entered in order to Do My Part to contribute to a community event. Essentially, though, I just think they're stupid, to put it bluntly. Music-making should not be a competitive sport.






::: I just think they're stupid, to put it bluntly. Music-making should not be a competitive sport.:::



I could not agree more. How is it possible for a group of 'Judges' to be anything but subjective? Music is not competitive.

Lonesome Fiddler - Posted - 05/02/2019:  13:27:31


quote:

Originally posted by docmarc

quote:

Originally posted by Old Scratch

I've gone in a few small contests, and did all right in them, but only entered in order to Do My Part to contribute to a community event. Essentially, though, I just think they're stupid, to put it bluntly. Music-making should not be a competitive sport.






::: I just think they're stupid, to put it bluntly. Music-making should not be a competitive sport.:::



I could not agree more. How is it possible for a group of 'Judges' to be anything but subjective? Music is not competitive.






Yeah, you're right that music shouldn't be competitive but the notion of a contest + prizes does lure otherwise reluctant players onto the stage to give it a go in public.  Whether you win or lose, you'll be famous for a couple of minutes.  Of course, you could also be a laughing stock or a bore.  But you might as well give it a go a couple of times, at least until the novelty wears off.

ChickenMan - Posted - 05/02/2019:  15:03:08


Why DON'T I? was the topic so I'll address that.
1. Not my style
2. Too many contestants / too long of a wait
3. Don't feel like it today.

jefferylong - Posted - 05/07/2019:  07:16:57


quote:

Originally posted by TuneWeaver

Thanks, Doug.

6. Don't trust the judges..



A little more seriously..I know that there are people walking around festivals taping musicians.. Maybe there could be an ad-hoc contest where the Best jam session could be voted on?






Their are . . . one near here in Summertown has a “Shadetree Contest” where anyone can pick up a ballot and vote for their favorite Shadetree group. Of course it can become a popularity contest, but then the same could be said for some judged contests. 

jefferylong - Posted - 05/07/2019:  07:27:07


If you’re & Oldtime Fiddler, you are handicapped to begin with. Most contests I’ve been in, “Texas Swing Fiddling” is the preferred choice of style for the winners circle. I don’t know why some contests are still advertised as an “Oldtime Fiddlers Jamboree?” Nothing could be farther from the truth?

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