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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Pushing into notes


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soppinthegravy - Posted - 08/06/2017:  14:25:34


Is there a way to indicate that one should "push" into the first note of a part other than writing a pick-up measure and using a tie? 


Edited by - soppinthegravy on 08/06/2017 14:30:16

TuneWeaver - Posted - 08/06/2017:  15:20:13


Are you referring to a slide?



 

Cyndy - Posted - 08/06/2017:  18:05:39


I only write for my own use and usually I do what you describe. Or, I just write a "P" or the word "Push" above the note. :)

soppinthegravy - Posted - 08/06/2017:  19:53:31


What I'm referring to is the type of syncopation This guy is adding to the first note at start of both sections of this tune. A lot of people slide when they do it, like in Chicken Reel or Back Up and Push: youtube.com/watch?v=nQI5bt_eIg4   



quote:


Originally posted by Lee M

 

Are you referring to a slide?




 







 

soppinthegravy - Posted - 08/06/2017:  19:59:10


That's what I was thinking about doing, but I was curious to know if there were more ways to get that same idea across. 



quote:


Originally posted by Cyndy

 

I only write for my own use and usually I do what you describe. Or, I just write a "P" or the word "Push" above the note. :)







 

pete_fiddle - Posted - 08/06/2017:  23:00:25


That sounds like he's starting the phrase on the last 8th note of the bar and slurring across the bar line, so i would tie the last 8th note of the bar to the first note of the next bar across the bar line.



 


Edited by - pete_fiddle on 08/06/2017 23:06:31

FiddleBas - Posted - 08/08/2017:  04:39:48


quote:

Originally posted by pete_fiddle

 

That sounds like he's starting the phrase on the last 8th note of the bar and slurring across the bar line, so i would tie the last 8th note of the bar to the first note of the next bar across the bar line.




 







Agree - in bluegrass transcriptions these are written out exactly like this (note slurred across bar line)

farmerjones - Posted - 08/08/2017:  07:18:22


Couldn't "P" stand for push or pull?



I've seen what look like little stirrups and inverted stirrups in fiddle notation, for bow direction.

Addie - Posted - 08/08/2017:  08:31:43


In music notation, p is for piano, play softly.  pp makes me think of something else, put it's softer than p but louder than ppp.



Push makes me think of bowing, and would be >



if slurring across bar lines, write a slur.  BTW a slur can be > or ppp. wink

Lonesome Fiddler - Posted - 08/08/2017:  13:26:23


Just do what you said.  Write a pickup measure and use a tie.  It's so logical.  It's so easy to recognize.

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