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haggis - Posted - 06/27/2014: 08:45:27
Is this correct? Playing in any key, using the normal fingering patterns, if I take any finger and move it up to the next note in the scale and use the appropriate finger pattern am I playing in the next highest position. If I slid up two notes and played the scale with appropriate pattern am I then two positions higher.
Simply put, key A major,playing B on A string with 1st finger. If I then slide up to D and play E F# and G# on the A string am I in 3rd position? AND had I slid up to D from the C# using my 2nd finger then D E F# on the A string then over to the E string to finger G# am I in 2nd position. I hope so as this would be one big barrier surmounted.
Any help would be appreciate.
Swing - Posted - 06/27/2014: 09:12:38
'Bout time you figured that out.... now you will be exercising your pinky a lot and that is good.... also the plus is that you can now work on double stops in the upper positions... learn to run the a scale in double stops and you will never look back.
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fiddlinsteudel - Posted - 06/27/2014: 09:15:46
I'm determined to get better at my double stops and so I've started working on double stop scales ... one day!!!
fujers - Posted - 06/27/2014: 10:16:22
You got it
Sue B. - Posted - 06/27/2014: 14:15:49
Something to keep in mind is that, for example, if you put your A string first finger on D it is called 3rd position, and most commonly, also called 3rd position if you put first finger on D#. If you're calling that sound Eb, it's fourth position, as is first finger on E natural. Cello and bass players will name positions as 2 and a half, etc., but on violin, not usually. Those who play upper & lower stringed instruments tend to apply the other's terminology/fingerboard geography.
chas5strings - Posted - 06/27/2014: 23:03:05
just to complicate matters.......
on the A string, 2nd finger on C natural 1st position
2nd finger on B# half postion why?
Well we are implying a 1st finger on A# (applies enharmonically too)
Half position is indispensable for those sharp/flat keys you hope never to meet unless you are trying to play with a Scruggs look alike who capos his banjo at the first fret.
UsuallyPickin - Posted - 06/28/2014: 04:48:41
Yes ! Closed position scales open the door to successful jamming and double stop usage......... around here the index finger is placed over two strings ..... and that is a 1/5 chord and the arpeggio and several double stops are within range for easy use. It can also be the 1 chord in a I/4/5 progression........ the 4 and 5 chord are just one string pair, the A and D strings, "down" ....... there's all kinds of tricks from the index finger planted over a pair of strings placement..... Luck.... R/
Dick Hauser - Posted - 06/28/2014: 07:12:33
As far as fingerboard familiarity goes, practicing arpeggios works better for me than scales. I have to concentrate harder. I am an older guy and have my hands full playing in the first 3 positions. Recently several new tunes have me playing more in third position. Most of the 3rd position music is in the keys of "C" and "D". I could use my index finger as a capo, as UsuallyPickin describes, but I like the sound of open strings.
alaskafiddler - Posted - 06/30/2014: 04:27:44
quote:
Originally posted by Dick Hauser
Most of the 3rd position music is in the keys of "C" and "D".
In most of the fiddle music I play - 3rd position comes up a lot with the key of A; mostly just to extend the range up so to get up to C# on the E string. Use it similar but less often for key of D, to get the D note on the E string.
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