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FiddleDoug

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05/17/2009 08:08:26  View FiddleDoug's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Fubbi,
Welcome to this forum. I've been aware of your database, and your participation elsewhere for several years. I've often been tempted to get the database, and I expect that when I get some spare $, I'll go for it.
Most of the instruments that I work on seem to have been made by "Antonius Stradivarius", usually on his many vacations in Germany, Czeckoslovakia, and even Japan!

Doug Wall

wallindependent.com

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abinigia

United States
Joined 8/27/2008
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05/17/2009 08:20:12  Reply with Quote


Thanks much. Describes the scroll and varnish of my instrument. My eye can't tell subtle shape differences at this point.

Brian Wood
briankwood.net/

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lrhamp

United States
Joined 8/1/2007
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05/17/2009 08:42:44  View lrhamp's MP3 Archive  View lrhamp's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Thank you Ed for the info on E E Shepardson. The one I have was bought about 1961 from a man who had retired to Ozark Co. Mo. It had been his daughters' violin when she took lessons as a child.

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fubbi2

Joined 5/13/2009
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05/17/2009 09:01:12  Send fubbi2 an AOL message  Reply with Quote

quote:
Originally posted by FiddleDoug

Fubbi,
Welcome to this forum. I've been aware of your database, and your participation elsewhere for several years. I've often been tempted to get the database, and I expect that when I get some spare $, I'll go for it.
Most of the instruments that I work on seem to have been made by "Antonius Stradivarius", usually on his many vacations in Germany, Czeckoslovakia, and even Japan!

Doug Wall

wallindependent.com



Hi Doug - It's true - most violins bear a Strad label, followed closely by Guarnerius, Amati, and Stainer. Originally, these labels were meant only as an homage, but as time went on, unscrupulous dealers tried to pass off copies as originals. My database is intended for luthiers and dealers who see a lot of violins come through their shops, and may need some information on real violin makers that did not necessarily come up to the Stradivarius level. For instance Raffaele Calace is not well know outside of the appraisers world, but if you come across one if his instruments it might be useful to know that he's auctioned for up to $9500...and maybe what his label looks like. And to be able to do that without buying thousands of dollars worth of reference works.

Please understand that I ALWAYS recommend that people take their instrument to a qualified luthier or appraiser for an opinion. My information is based on reference works, not on violin expertise.
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fubbi2

Joined 5/13/2009
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05/18/2009 12:13:31  Send fubbi2 an AOL message  Reply with Quote

quote:


Thanks for offering this! I've been trying to find info on a William Bacca (or Baca), California, 1930's. I have a fiddle made by him with an unusual back, some tell me it might be myrtlewood.
Thanks!



Sorry - Searching for all USA makers with lastname B(anything) and "Will" in their first name shows only:
Lastname Firstname From To Country City 1
Bailey William 1955 1955 USA Hop Bottom, PA
Baldwin William M. 1895 1926 USA Racine, WI
Banister William 1990 2000 USA Columbus, IN
Barnes William Frank 1914 1922 USA Munson, PA
Barnitz William S. 1977 1997 USA Tucson, AZ
Bartruff William H. 1972 2004 USA St. Paul, MN
Batchelder Willis M. 1900 1900 USA Tilton, NH
Baume William 1874 1894 USA Davenport, IA
Bielby William G. 1976 1990 USA Salmon, ID
Bisset William 1894 1894 USA Los Angeles, CA
Bosser William 1939 1939 USA Toledo, OH
Bourke William 1920 1920 USA New York, NY
Braley William J. 1905 1926 USA Fall River, MA
Brayley William J. 1920 1926 USA Fall River, MA
Bronson William S. 1885 1908 USA Grand Rapids, MI
Bruggeman William 1920 1922 USA Pueblo, CO
Bryant Willard 1897 1920 USA Detroit, MI
Bublitz William F. 1922 1922 USA Elkhorn, WI
Butterfield William 1875 1875 USA Derry, NH

This means your guy was probably an amateur, who didn't make the major references works and hasn't shown up in auctions.

If you can send the the information on the label, I'll put in an entry for him...

"When Good and Evil compromise, Good always loses."


Edited by - fubbi2 on 05/21/2009 20:10:48

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M-D

Joined 6/21/2007
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05/18/2009 12:32:07  View M-D's MP3 Archive  View M-D's Classified Ads  View M-D's Photo Albums    Reply with Quote

Edward,

Do you have a listing for a C. M. Bendix (Carsten Martin Bendix), at Badger, Iowa? Not looking for any info, so much as offering what I have. Anything you would share is appreciated, however.

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M-D

Old-Time, All the Time

Music is found in the space between the notes -- in the silence between the chords. Get your spaces right, and you''ve got it. ~ Albert Greenfield

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fubbi2

Joined 5/13/2009
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05/18/2009 17:15:43  Send fubbi2 an AOL message  Reply with Quote

quote:
Originally posted by M-D

Edward,

Do you have a listing for a C. M. Bendix (Carsten Martin Bendix), at Badger, Iowa? Not looking for any info, so much as offering what I have. Anything you would share is appreciated, however.




It's beginning to look like this forum needs a Fiddlemakers database. I only have a Violinmakers database. Because, again, I find nothing. There are so many good 'fiddles' that never make it into the reference works. ...Sorry.

"When Good and Evil compromise, Good always loses."

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fordraiders

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05/19/2009 07:16:46  View fordraiders's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Fubbi2
Does your database contain any information on "David Teechler" Austrian luthier. ? wikipedia has the most information I could Find.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Tecchler ...Just in case your looking to add a Violin/Cello maker.


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fubbi2

Joined 5/13/2009
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05/19/2009 07:56:00  Send fubbi2 an AOL message  Reply with Quote

quote:
Originally posted by fordraiders

Fubbi2
Does your database contain any information on "David Teechler" Austrian luthier. ? wikipedia has the most information I could Find.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Tecchler ...Just in case your looking to add a Violin/Cello maker.

Fordraiders



Hmmm. "Fordraiders" - familiar name...maybe seen on another of my sites?

David Tecchler - born in Austria, worked in Rome, Italy c,. 1703 - 1743. I have him listed as a 'Superior' maker. He was so good that there lots of copies (fakes) of his work. If you have a genuine Tecchler, you could sell it, and retire. Recent auction sales have brought over $75,000. His cellos are prized.

There's also a "Techler" tradename of inexpensive instruments from a German factory.
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dsreinerPlayers Union Member

United States
Joined 6/26/2007
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05/19/2009 08:22:52  View dsreiner's MP3 Archive  View dsreiner's Classified Ads  View dsreiner's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Hi fubbi2-

What do you have on John Gould? I know he made violins in Boston in the late 1800's through the early 1900's, and had several sons in the business with him. I'm asking because I just bought an old leather-bound set of issues of a monthly magazine (The Fiddle) that Gould published for most of 1915.

Thanks,
Dave

Co-author, Oldtime Fiddling Across America
Author, Anthology of Fiddle Styles
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fubbi2

Joined 5/13/2009
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05/19/2009 08:47:29  Send fubbi2 an AOL message  Reply with Quote

quote:
Originally posted by dsreiner

Hi fubbi2-

What do you have on John Gould?

Thanks,
Dave



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Hi Dave - This is from Wenberg's The Violin Makers of the United States:
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Gould, John Alfred; Boston, MA. 1860-1944. Born in Windermere, England. Apprenticed to a piano maker in 1873. Made first violin in 1876, self-taught. Worked for W.E Archer starting in 1878 in Liverpool, England. asaviolin maker and repairman. Moved to Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. in 1882, and moved to Boston in 1885, where he worked for Orrin Weemann. Returned to England and worked there 1887-1889. Established own shop in Boston in 1889. Most of his instruments were made during the summer months in Rome, ME. Strad and Guarneri models until 1905, own broad model after that time. Used domestic wood exclusively and applied an oil varnish. Some handwritten labels. Fine workmanship. Placed first at the Great Central Fair in Hamilton. Canada, in 1884. Publisher of Fiddle Shop Thiks. Ilead of the firm J.A. Gould & Sons, in which four of his Sons were also involved. Made violin accessories under the name "Orthotonic Specialties'
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NHFiddler

United States
Joined 6/27/2007
40 Posts

05/19/2009 16:02:00  Reply with Quote

quote:

Sorry - Searching for all USA makers with lastname B(anything) and "Will" in their first name shows only:
Lastname Firstname From To Country City 1
Bailey William 1955 1955 USA Hop Bottom, PA
Baldwin William M. 1895 1926 USA Racine, WI
Banister William 1990 2000 USA Columbus, IN
Barnes William Frank 1914 1922 USA Munson, PA
Barnitz William S. 1977 1997 USA Tucson, AZ
Bartruff William H. 1972 2004 USA St. Paul, MN
Batchelder Willis M. 1900 1900 USA Tilton, NH
Baume William 1874 1894 USA Davenport, IA
Bielby William G. 1976 1990 USA Salmon, ID
Bisset William 1894 1894 USA Los Angeles, CA
Bosser William 1939 1939 USA Toledo, OH
Bourke William 1920 1920 USA New York, NY
Braley William J. 1905 1926 USA Fall River, MA
Brayley William J. 1920 1926 USA Fall River, MA
Bronson William S. 1885 1908 USA Grand Rapids, MI
Bruggeman William 1920 1922 USA Pueblo, CO
Bryant Willard 1897 1920 USA Detroit, MI
Bublitz William F. 1922 1922 USA Elkhorn, WI
Butterfield William 1875 1875 USA Derry, NH

This means your guy was probably an amateur, who didn't make the major references works and hasn't shown up in auctions.

If you can send the the information on the label, I'll put in an entry for him...

"When Good and Evil compromise, Good always loses."



Thanks for searching. I just spent a few minutes peering into the fiddle. It doesn't have a paper label, instead in pencil it says:

"Made by M.A. Baca
April 17, 1932 4307 Park Ave
Riverside City, Calif."

I'm guessing a tiny bit on the first initial, judging by the handwriting it looks more like an "M" to me than a "W". Glad to help make a contribution, even if it isn't much .

"Gonna take down my fiddle, gonna rosin up the bow, gonna make myself welcome wherever I go."


Edited by - NHFiddler on 05/19/2009 16:05:09

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99_ROY_D

United States
Joined 5/20/2009
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05/21/2009 14:18:14  View 99_ROY_D's Photo Albums  View 99_ROY_D's Blog  Reply with Quote

i have a violin the label says"" P.C. Poulsen violin maker"
another label inside says "A.L. Howell 1946 rebuilt by Jarvis C. Weaver "
do you have any info ?........thanks for your kindness

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fubbi2

Joined 5/13/2009
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05/21/2009 20:09:56  Send fubbi2 an AOL message  Reply with Quote

quote:
Originally posted by 99_ROY_D

i have a violin the label says"" P.C. Poulsen violin maker"
another label inside says "A.L. Howell 1946 rebuilt by Jarvis C. Weaver "
do you have any info ?........thanks for your kindness



I answered elsewhere for Poulsen...
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I once saw an auction entry for a W..L.Howell for a fiddle made in 1939, in Liverpool, Ohio - could this be your guy?

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Mark

United States
Joined 10/23/2007
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07/23/2009 13:01:21  View Mark's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Hi Fubbi,

Do you have any thing on Thomas Cieplik? I have a German? violin labeled that has this name on it. I have not been able to find any information on this violin. Was he a builder?
Thanks

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fubbi2

Joined 5/13/2009
69 Posts

07/23/2009 16:00:23  Send fubbi2 an AOL message  Reply with Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Mark

Hi Fubbi,

Do you have any thing on Thomas Cieplik? I have a German? violin labeled that has this name on it. I have not been able to find any information on this violin. Was he a builder?
Thanks



Are you sure of that spelling (or are you guessing? )
any chance of getting a pic of the label?

fub

"When Good and Evil compromise, Good always loses."

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Mark

United States
Joined 10/23/2007
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07/24/2009 20:37:25  View Mark's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote


Fub,
The Label is almost round and red with white letters. The label looks to read:

Top edge of label reads
V 2 dots above the o
Grosstes.oberschl.pianoforte.magazin

Middle of the label reads
THOMAS CIEPLIK
BEUTHEN o/s
Tarnowitzerstr.13

The bottom edge has
Kunst.Reparatur.Anstalt
VINSTRUMENTENjA

Thanks for your help

I have uploaded 2 pictures on my home page. I don't know how to put them here.

Mark

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hanknc

United States
Joined 4/14/2008
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07/25/2009 06:24:12  View hanknc's MP3 Archive  View hanknc's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

here you go...




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fubbi2

Joined 5/13/2009
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07/25/2009 07:49:01  Send fubbi2 an AOL message  Reply with Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Mark


Fub,
The Label is almost round and red with white letters. The label looks to read:

Top edge of label reads
V 2 dots above the o
Grosstes.oberschl.pianoforte.magazin
Middle of the label reads
THOMAS CIEPLIK
BEUTHEN o/s
Tarnowitzerstr.13
The bottom edge has
Kunst.Reparatur.Anstalt
VINSTRUMENTENjA
Thanks for your help
I have uploaded 2 pictures on my home page. I don't know how to put them here.
Mark



OK. I'm going to do some semi-educated guessing here...
I don't find any Thomas Cieplik listed as a violin maker. But, I did find a Thomasz Cieplik who had a large music company in Beuthen, Silesia (used to be part of Bohemia - now probably a territory in Poland). Cieplik's dates are 1861-1925. Therefore, I suspect that what you have is a violin repaired in the Cieplik shop probably around 1900-1920. So - you have a probable period, but we still don't know who actually made your fiddle....
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Mark

United States
Joined 10/23/2007
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07/25/2009 15:48:24  View Mark's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Thank You for your Info.
It looks to be well build, beautiful tiger maple, and the sound is great. The Fiddle teacher I was going to, ( Roy Crawford, Cullman Ala.), told me that I should never need to buy a better sounding instrument. i was just wondering if you had any info on this one. I had looked several times and could not find anything. There is no other info. in it.

Thanks again Y'all,
Mark

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Wayne Holcombe

United States
Joined 8/9/2009
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08/18/2009 16:49:16  Reply with Quote

Do you Have anything on a J.BRATKOWSKI from Dublin N.Y. ?
Wayne

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fubbi2

Joined 5/13/2009
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08/18/2009 17:37:21  Send fubbi2 an AOL message  Reply with Quote

I find no Bratkowski...
Looking for all the *owski's in the USA gives:

Orlowski Henri 1956 1958 USA Wallingford, CT
Witkowski Jerold 1985 2009 USA Cincinnati, OH
Krosnowski Joseph C. 1977 2001 USA New Rochelle, NY
Kozowski Walter 1976 1982 USA New York, NY
Pawlikowski Walter (Wladyslaw) 1970 1990 USA Chicago, IL
Wilkanowski Willie 1895 1945 USA Brooklyn, NY

Searching on the *kow* in the USA gives:
Miskowsky Andy 1970 1986 USA West Frankfort, IL
Nowakowsky J. 1910 1910 USA New York, NY
Witkowski Jerold 1985 2009 USA Cincinnati, OH
Lewkowicz Raymond E. 1973 1993 USA Yellow Springs, OH
Kowallis Reid Burton 1978 1982 USA Santa Clara, CA
Litkowitz Stuart R. 1982 1992 USA Salt Lake City, UT
Senkow Walter 1938 1968 USA Dallas, TX
Pawlikowski Walter (Wladyslaw) 1970 1990 USA Chicago, IL

If your Bratkowski was an amateur, it's possible there would be nothing in the references...


...Sorry.
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captainhook

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08/19/2009 16:45:04  View captainhook's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

I just had one in for a little work that I'm curious about. Overall nice looking but a little crude here and there. Labeled:

W. Wilkanowski
Violin Maker
Serial # 2589 1949
and another number (7273) across the end of the label.

The back appeared to be red maple. Any hints?

Lyle

captainhook
Transylvania County, USA

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DougD

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08/19/2009 17:57:19  View DougD's MP3 Archive  View DougD's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Although the date doesn't quite jibe, I think that instrument was probably from the maker in Brooklyn that fubbi2 mentioned above. Pretty well regarded I think. He also made some unusual guitars made on a violin type pattern, which I believe are somewhat sought after: musurgia.com/products.asp?Prod...359232005


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captainhook

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08/19/2009 18:37:08  View captainhook's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Oops, missed that. Maybe the shop went on without him for a few years. Doesn't appear that he worked alone. The purfling on this one looked like from a beginner, along with a few other details. Thanks, Doug

captainhook
Transylvania County, USA

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