Greetings - I'm a noob to this forum...found you on Facebook.

I've created (and sell) a database of Violin Makers - over 20,000 entries.
Please see violinmakersdb.com for more information.

I don't expect people looking for info one fiddle to buy the database - I'm willing and happy to do quickie research on one or two makers.

Nice Forum!

"When Good and Evil compromise, Good always loses."

Welcome to the FHO.

Nice job you've done with that data-base.

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M-D

Old-Time, All the Time

Music is found in the space between the notes -- in the silence between the chords. Get your spaces right, and you''ve got it. ~ Albert Greenfield

Great, but I already know my favorite makers and have enough fiddles and bows. Good luck selling the database.

RobBob
Music; the best way to count time.
blueridgerounders.com

fiddlehangout.com/forum/topic....n,s,allen

I've been looking for information about John S. Allen ever since Christmas (genealogical research is both a hobby and a profession for me) but it's been a very tough search because I know so little about him. Do you have any clues that might help me help a fellow forum member?

Cynthia

I have a John M. Allen who worked in Boston for Oliver Ditson, in the 1930's - may have been a maker, but was certainly a dealer.

And a John Allen who worked in Battle Creek Mich. 1890-1896, taught by J.B.Squier...recently auctioned for $3335

No John S. Allen...
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"When Good and Evil compromise, Good always loses."

Every clue helps. Do you know where those 1890-1896 dates came from? I knew of the Battle Creek connection, but I wasn't sure of the dates. My thought was that he followed Mr. Squier's son to Michigan but I may have to rethink the time line.

Thanks!

Cynthia

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Originally posted by ajisai

Every clue helps. Do you know where those 1890-1896 dates came from? I knew of the Battle Creek connection, but I wasn't sure of the dates. My thought was that he followed Mr. Squier's son to Michigan but I may have to rethink the time line.

Thanks!

Cynthia

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Hey there, fubbi!

now the party can start...

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kindly remind me what I''m supposed to do with this thing, now

Welcome to the forum fubbi! Didn't Inspector Clouseau play the fiddle while in bed in one of the Pink Panther pics?

My violin has a label telling me it's an LP Schuster, Markneukirchen Saxony. Two appraisers have told me that LP Schuster doesn't exist and the label...as well as the other two labels inside the violin, is, how shall I say, fibbing. Or is that fubbi-ing? Does LP Schuster exist in your database?

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Welcome to the forum fubbi! Didn't Inspector Clouseau play the fiddle while in bed in one of the Pink Panther pics?

My violin has a label telling me it's an LP Schuster, Markneukirchen Saxony. Two appraisers have told me that LP Schuster doesn't exist and the label...as well as the other two labels inside the violin, is, how shall I say, fibbing. Or is that fubbi-ing? Does LP Schuster exist in your database?

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Hi, fubbi. Know anything about Carl L Stockdale out of Missouri?

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Originally posted by amwildman

Hi, fubbi. Know anything about Carl L Stockdale out of Missouri?

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No worries. They do look nice for an amateur maker. There's one listed by a Gerald Stockdale also out of missouri that is very obviously amateurish, but the Carl ones appear to be very nice indeed. No doubt they're relatives. I think I'll contact the seller to get more info on the maker.

Fast reply from the seller. Looks like a family of amateur makers, with the instruments mostly kept within the family.

"Harold A Stockdale (father) was a master luthier and well as fiddle player. There are only four Harold Stockdale violins. Two are owned by me..one by his daughter..and one was lost in pawn from a son. Carl studied under him and was more of a prolific violin maker than Harold was. He made several of them..(in which I own) his three children were all made one specially for them. Carl's violins all show very fine craftsmanship and are noted for their beautiful tones. Gerald (Carl's brother) made some violins also..but he wouldn't follow a pattern so his are more unsymetrical..and sort of mishapen..all have very nice volumous tones though. His wood was not as old as Carl's so thus a heavier violin. Gerald's are always most generally inlaid...but not very well done. They were all Ozark violin makers"

"Harold A Stockdale (father) was a master luthier and well as fiddle player."

PLEASE forgive me, as I know this is a fiddleplayers forum...but an amateur maker in the Ozarks, who made only 4 violins, cannot actually be a "Master Luthier" (although I admit Carl's violins look pretty nice.) There are official rules about who is a Master Luthier, and who is not.

This is all very good info however. Let us know if you buy one!

"When Good and Evil compromise, Good always loses."

C'mon, fubbi! Don't burst my balloon, here. I have the chance to own a violin from a prolific maker who learned from a master luthier for a mere pittance.

Thanks for the info on Herr LP Schuster. The maker of my fiddle remains a mystery. Maybe he was like PDQ Bach, the last and least of Johann Sebastian's children.

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Fingers like lightning. They never strike the same place twice.

One would do well to research certain eBay sellers before committing one's money.

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M-D

Old-Time, All the Time

Music is found in the space between the notes -- in the silence between the chords. Get your spaces right, and you''ve got it. ~ Albert Greenfield

C'mon, M-D, spill the beans. Are you referring to the seller I mentioned?

I've created (and sell) a database of Violin Makers - over 20,000 entries.
Please see violinmakersdb.com for more information.

Edward, Nice database. I write database collection programs myself.
Very Nice ! Good Information !



Fordraiders

Upon further research and some appropriate communication, I have decided it is not safe for me to buy from the seller of these Stockdale instruments. During the aforementioned communication, it has been alleged that this seller relabels cheap violins, antiques them, and misrepresents them. According to my source, he has been the victim of fraud. He has tracked the purchases and sales of this seller, and seen purchases of $30 cheapo fiddles and then seen them resold at $250 with new labels, antiquing, and totally misrepresented. He has seen this numerous times. Now we are unable to see the details of the items in the questionable seller's feedback listings. Why can't we see the items? Hmm. He believes that these Stockdale violins are a new tactic, perhaps Chinese violins in the white.

In conclusion, it is impossible for me to prove any of the above, but if you want more details, contact me. USE CAUTION WITH THIS SELLER. MULTIPLE USERNAMES EXIST.

Edited by - amwildman on 05/15/2009 09:29:47

Nice bit of research, amwildman. I knew you'd find it, if you looked.

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M-D

Old-Time, All the Time

Music is found in the space between the notes -- in the silence between the chords. Get your spaces right, and you''ve got it. ~ Albert Greenfield

Funny, the first time I looked, the negative feedback wasn't there. There's some weird stuff going on with ebay's policies and execution thereof lately.

I was given a signed John Juzek with a one piece back a few years ago. It seems like a nice violin.I can't find much about him. Thanks for any info.

Brian Wood
briankwood.net/

Fubbi can give more detailed info, but John Juzek is well known. Does the label say "formerly in Prague"? Metropolitan Music is related to Juzek, too.

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M-D

Old-Time, All the Time

Music is found in the space between the notes -- in the silence between the chords. Get your spaces right, and you''ve got it. ~ Albert Greenfield

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I was given a signed John Juzek with a one piece back a few years ago. It seems like a nice violin.I can't find much about him. Thanks for any info.

Brian Wood
briankwood.net/

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