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TuneWeaver

United States
5848 posts
since 3/19/09

08/11/2017 14:14:02 View TuneWeaver's MP3 Archive View TuneWeaver's Photo Albums View TuneWeaver's Blog Reply with Quote

I only ask this because.....I DON"T KNOW!!!!... Some winners play notey tunes with few drones or double stops and other winners play a lot of drones and double stops... SO... What would YOU be looking for if you were an Old TIme Fiddle Contest JUDGE?

Fiddler

United States
3549 posts since 6/22/07

08/11/2017 16:51:24View Fiddler's MP3 Archive View Fiddler's Photo Albums View Fiddler's Blog Reply with Quote

hmmmm .... tough question.

Does the contestant make me want to reach for:

Beer or champagne?

Fried chicken or caviar?

Overalls or tuxedo?

 

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Dan Gellert

United States
321 posts since 6/26/07

08/11/2017 17:10:54 View Dan Gellert's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

I'd be looking for the quickest escape route.

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amwildman

United States
1957 posts since 12/23/07

08/11/2017 17:34:11View amwildman's MP3 Archive Reply with Quote

I'm not an OT musician, but in my dream world, the following make sense.

 

In no particular order:

Intonation

Rhythm/timing

Demonstrate knowledge of the genre

Variations and other interesting things (see previous point)

Dance groove

Technical ability/showy things.

Can play equally well with and without a backer.  I want to hear them without a freaking guitar strumming along.  

Having fun.  It's a contest, yes, but why are you so serious?

 

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tonyelder

United States
5320 posts since 8/7/09

08/11/2017 17:55:44View tonyelder's MP3 Archive View tonyelder's Photo Albums View tonyelder's Blog Reply with Quote

...did it sound like something that I expected - but nothing like what I expected.


Edited by - tonyelder on 08/11/2017 18:05:40

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Fiddler

United States
3549 posts since 6/22/07

08/11/2017 18:12:55View Fiddler's MP3 Archive View Fiddler's Photo Albums View Fiddler's Blog Reply with Quote

Seriously,

Intonation

Timing

Technical ability

Danceability

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bsedPlayers Union Member

United States
3861 posts since 6/23/07

08/11/2017 19:21:59View bsed's MP3 Archive View bsed's Classified Ads View bsed's Photo Albums View bsed's Blog Reply with Quote

I'd take the danceability one step further: If he/she had swing, they'd really get my attention.

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Fiddler

United States
3549 posts since 6/22/07

08/11/2017 21:03:02View Fiddler's MP3 Archive View Fiddler's Photo Albums View Fiddler's Blog Reply with Quote

Bruce - I think Duke said it best:

"It Don't Mean a Thing If It Ain't Got That Swing

(Insert a bunch of doo-ahs here.)

It makes no difference
If it's sweet or hot
Just give that rhythm
Everything you've got

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Brendan Doyle

United States
181 posts since 6/25/07

08/12/2017 00:18:39View Brendan Doyle's MP3 Archive View Brendan Doyle's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

Well, here are the judging criteria for the traditional categories (fiddle, banjo, and traditional band) at Clifftop:

"Contestants in all traditional categories will be judged on rhythm/timing, tonal qualities, expression/soul, difficulty, and old-time style (20% each), with highest scores going to traditional old-time tunes/songs played in a traditional old-time style."

The third category, "expression/soul", was added by request of the judges some years ago, and seems conspicuously absent from the typical criteria I've seen listed for many contests, including suggestions on this thread. But what could be more important than that in a musical performance? Is not emotional expression the whole point of playing music? It seems an empty exercise to me without its inclusion.

As a Clifftop fiddle and traditional band judge myself three years ago, I heartily approve of the criteria that Bobby Taylor has set for the trad contests; they pretty much cover everything I care about in old-time playing. I guess I could add the musical interaction of the members of a band to the list, but to me, that's pretty much implied in the above criteria.

 

 


Edited by - Brendan Doyle on 08/12/2017 00:29:20

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RobBob

United States
2485 posts since 6/26/07

08/12/2017 06:45:16View RobBob's MP3 Archive View RobBob's Photo Albums View RobBob's Blog Reply with Quote

As Brendan states above, many of the the contests have written and or verbal criteria to follow.  Some areas favor different styles and having the correct postal address does not hurt at some contests.  But the main thing is follow your instincts as a musician and heed the criteria that the contest is based on.  I have judged a lot of contests and it is a pretty thankless but necessary job. 

 

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UsuallyPickinPlayers Union Member

United States
1709 posts since 10/1/08

08/12/2017 06:46:16 View UsuallyPickin's Photo Albums View UsuallyPickin's Blog Reply with Quote

Timing, tone, taste and groove. Not too much whine in the vocals or the fiddling. But that's me. R/

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soppinthegravy

284 posts since 7/26/15

08/12/2017 16:07:43View soppinthegravy's MP3 Archive View soppinthegravy's Photo Albums Reply with Quote

 I like that. I'm going to have to remember that one.

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Originally posted by Fiddler
 

hmmmm .... tough question.

Does the contestant make me want to reach for:

Beer or champagne?

Fried chicken or caviar?

Overalls or tuxedo?

 


 

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