I used to be in the same situation of many starters asking myself and everybody about what kind of fiddle should I buy that could have a good quality. As a matter of fact I bougth two violins. first one was for my little daughter. price of 200 bucks.cremona sv225.nice looking. and the second was a VIF 200A for me.and surprise.great sound. nice tone. very well made fingerboard. powerful sound and superior to other violins  of higher price. mine was 100 bucks. I couldn't believe it. We tried to check this brand buying more pieces for students and teachers so everybody got satisfied. My son changed his Palatino for VIF 550 and it is simply great. But I ain't got just words. I've posted a record on my site. My music team played canon in D for you to listen so you can hear clearly that you can trust on VIF quality. Their violins worth much more than their price. Are you beguinner or an advanced or a pro?don't break your head friends, try VIF violins from 200A to upper levels.professionals?enter chairman.hk  site and look out for Peter Siegfrid Heffler collection so you can get a fine violin. I do this to make easier your chosing of a new fiddle paying affordable price and getting a very very good quality violin. Since my first purchase I've bought eigth more violins for students and teachers of my school. Hope this could be helpful for everyone

This is starting to look like spam.

That is what I was thinking to  . . . .

It couldnt be more plain..........;-)

Yeah, keeping an eye on it.

My friends, this is not spam, I have a good experience with these violins. That's all. so I feel I can give a good idea about them. I did record to support my speech. I think I couldn't recomend something without a sample and that's it.

hey, good luck with it.  I bought two Yita Music violins and like i always say, Chinese violins is a hit or miss proposition. One is ok and the other looks great and it's sound is lacking quality.  But what can i do? send it back? As a matter of fact it sounded great the day i got it and progressively went "dead".  why, i don't know. V liolins like the Cremona sv175 seem to be consistently good for cheapies. Anyway i believe what you say but how do you know the next one will be as good?  sending it back is a hassle and expense. I checked out the Blue grass shop in Illinois, bought a fiddle and couldn't be happier, can't believe what i paid for it and can't beat their store policy. Don't care if it's from  wherever, it just is a quality instrument. check them out next time.

Sergio, it's still a blatant commercial from someone relatively unknown here who colorably just arrived to promote a product.  If that is, then I personally don't like it.

your words make a lot of sense, All I got to improve in my fiddle was 1) I changed alloy tailpiece for ebony 2) change bridge for a german teller. 3) changed strings for perlon chinese strings.total price of $37 dlls I think thta's not much. and my fiddle sounds pretty good, more sounding and clear.what's my point? You don't need to spend a lot of money to have a more than decent fiddle. specially if you are a starter. I saw a lot of people trying to get desperately help for buying a new violin. About my daughter's violin which one is a cremona 225 has a mosquito sound even using pirastro chromcor strings.price? 200 dlls. does it worth it? I don't think so. I'm pretty sure your yita violin with lacking quality sound needs soundpost to be set up again. My positive experience about VIFs is what trying to share to everyone.see you

Ok friends from Giannaviolins I apreciate your opinnion. To be honest I've read many of your posts and I liked them all. They've helped me to get more information about violins. I'll try to be more moderated as you say. Honestly I'm just trying to share experience I don't have doubt about. I could be intense but not dishonest. Anyway VIFs are a real option.

I don't disagree with your opinion on VIF. I disagree with your promotion of one brand among many many many violins, from someone unlikely to be a widely experienced dealer and luthier exposed to many brands in the market.  I like people to be excited.  I also like them to be fair.  

i don't want to take away from your post, but since you mentioned the soundpost i will tell you i already had the soundpost adjusted. i brought it to a luthier for that and he said he would rather change the post, fine $20 later and it still sounds dead. It still smells of glue, solvent or whatever it is they used to build it and this is months later. It is now in my garage. I'm hoping the fresh air will get rid of it. Shame because the wood is gorgeous.

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hey, good luck with it.  I bought two Yita Music violins and like i always say, Chinese violins is a hit or miss proposition. One is ok and the other looks great and it's sound is lacking quality.  But what can i do? send it back? As a matter of fact it sounded great the day i got it and progressively went "dead".  why, i don't know. V liolins like the Cremona sv175 seem to be consistently good for cheapies. Anyway i believe what you say but how do you know the next one will be as good?  sending it back is a hassle and expense. I checked out the Blue grass shop in Illinois, bought a fiddle and couldn't be happier, can't believe what i paid for it and can't beat their store policy. Don't care if it's from  wherever, it just is a quality instrument. check them out next time.

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I'm not sure what "Chinese" has to do with anything.  Reputable makes generally do extremely well, those from known violin family suppliers.  Buying from overseas direct presents its challenges, challenges one certainly must be aware of before doing so.  One can buy bad instruments made in places other than China, and order bad instruments direct from countries other than China.  Time to get off the China bandwagon.  

On the one that went "dead" - send it for a thorough setup and going over to a good shop and pay whatever it takes.  That's a really effective way to see what's really in there.

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Originally posted by justme

hey, good luck with it.  I bought two Yita Music violins and like i always say, Chinese violins is a hit or miss proposition. One is ok and the other looks great and it's sound is lacking quality.  But what can i do? send it back? As a matter of fact it sounded great the day i got it and progressively went "dead".  why, i don't know. V liolins like the Cremona sv175 seem to be consistently good for cheapies. Anyway i believe what you say but how do you know the next one will be as good?  sending it back is a hassle and expense. I checked out the Blue grass shop in Illinois, bought a fiddle and couldn't be happier, can't believe what i paid for it and can't beat their store policy. Don't care if it's from  wherever, it just is a quality instrument. check them out next time.

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I'm not sure what "Chinese" has to do with anything.  Reputable makes generally do extremely well, those from known violin family suppliers.  Buying from overseas direct presents its challenges, challenges one certainly must be aware of before doing so.  One can buy bad instruments made in places other than China, and order bad instruments direct from countries other than China.  Time to get off the China bandwagon.  

On the one that went "dead" - send it for a thorough setup and going over to a good shop and pay whatever it takes.  That's a really effective way to see what's really in there.

 

 if you would like a challenge, i'll gladly send it to you. I don't know what you can do to get rid of the smell and i really don't want to play it with a solvent stink under my nose, but if you can get it sounding good and i don't get sick i'll gladly send it to you.

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VIF's may be good instruments, but not set up in the U.S.A. I called them and talked to them about one they had on Ebay and they couldn't guarantee that I might get that one. When I ask them why, they told me that the package that it was shipped in from China was the one I would receive. I decided to take the advise from others on our forum and play more than one, before purchase, to decide on tone quality. That's why I decided to buy locally. I'm still looking for a beginning intermediate violin. Jerry 

If it were me, I would ask Woodwiz or Giannaviolins right on this forum. Alternately, you can find some violin shops to visit and try instruments out.

is it a moral dilema to buy a facrtory fiddle for 100 bucks made in china? I have read about the mass production methods where the employees get basically food shelter and something to do, The government supplies the materials and covers the shipping. Some of the chinese shops have been set up by experts from major schools of violin making. Their quality is improving. I also make fiddles and the MATERIAL COSTS for a complete outfit is 350 dollars including a case and bow.

OK guys, It can be helpful if I tell my idea in this way. First, don't you think I'd love to be the owner of a violin from Gliga, or Gianna or Yitamusic, or kennedy violins or from a very long list of great fiddles showing great finish, first class strings and accesories and sounding beautiful? And a wonderful bow from europe or asia? Of course I do¡. The most of the times it can cost good money, let's see 800 bucks at least? or maybe more. That's fine, they worth it. what I really mean is VIF violins got an affordable price giving an excellent sound and powerful tone. So you can pick a superb fiddle and that's OK and beside you got the option of spending less dollars. Upper level VIF violins are so competitive if you can spend a little more. I visited Morey's music in Lakewood CA, all fiddles are awesome. cheapest was on 380 -400 bucks. wonderful.Of course there's a lot of good sites. Good luck to them and violin buyers too

This really looks like spam now.  Imagine if everyone on this forum posted regularly about their favorite violin importer or maker to the exclusion of all others.

Enthusiasm is fine and dandy, but as a moderator on other fora off and on since the Internet started having fora, this really looks like it's spamming.  

Many many many violins are affordable and do very well.

Got your point Mr Gianna. Absolutly. Just want to get in clear I think the same than you "Many many many violins are affordable and do very well" I agree with you about no repeat again and again favorite violin review. sergioandoni

I mean Mr Perry.

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OK guys, It can be helpful if I tell my idea in this way. First, don't you think I'd love to be the owner of a violin from Gliga, or Gianna or Yitamusic, or kennedy violins or from a very long list of great fiddles showing great finish, first class strings and accesories and sounding beautiful? And a wonderful bow from europe or asia? Of course I do¡. The most of the times it can cost good money, let's see 800 bucks at least? or maybe more. That's fine, they worth it. what I really mean is VIF violins got an affordable price giving an excellent sound and powerful tone. So you can pick a superb fiddle and that's OK and beside you got the option of spending less dollars. Upper level VIF violins are so competitive if you can spend a little more. I visited Morey's music in Lakewood CA, all fiddles are awesome. cheapest was on 380 -400 bucks. wonderful.Of course there's a lot of good sites. Good luck to them and violin buyers too

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 Although not actual automated spambot, this is still considered forum spam, with manual unscrupulous intentions. Just saying that one brand has "excellent sound and powerful tone" does not place the brand above or apart from the field. Your last post is a spam-intended entry, and I will hide any new examples.

 ....fora.    Hmmm.     (ref: giannaviolins above)

While driving, I recently noted the multple stadia that are co-located in South Philly and thought about rarely heard pluralizations.

Larry

Mandogryl, like I said before to Steve I understand what you and he says, be sure I'm taking your opinnions. This is my first time posting so I'm learning too. No bad intention. enjoy life

Larry, fora is correct but the debate sometimes arises as to whether or not it is the only pluralization of forum, which of course it is not.

Some may object, and say forum is the more pragmatic solution, but most dictionaries will provide both forms.

Apologies for turning off topic.

sergio i was wondering if this is the same violin you are talking about and i was wondering which one of the vif violins it was
could you please help me
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