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groundhogpeggy  United States
Joined 9/23/2009 4872 Posts |
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Here's the new tune for our August Virtual Fiddle Festival... we are now on track with the rest of the world, working on our new tune from August 1st to August 31st... at which point we will get another new tune. Roro and the duck went all out to spill out another good tune... 'nother one I'm gonna have to learn from scratch! It's common, popular... I've heard it here and there, but I've never played it... what about you? Let's see what we can do with this one, guys... we have the whole month of August... hmmm... just think, by the time we are finished with this one maybe the weather will have cooled off some!!!! We can hope. Here we go, ENJOY! I'm looking forward to hearing them and have a new time management plan for both listening and working on them, myself... LOL... let's get busy!!!! http://youtu.be/9TvFqJVvZu8
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fiddle and banjo player
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Joined 7/5/2011 747 Posts |
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'Johnny Don't Get Drunk' - that sounds like FUN! 
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fiddlepLuker
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Joined 9/25/2007 811 Posts |
07/27/2012 17:52:22
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Is this the same Johnny that chopped down the tree?
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groundhogpeggy
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Joined 9/23/2009 4872 Posts |
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Oh I forgot to remind folks that if they need to hear it, want tabs or backup tracks...as always the tune was taken from Old Time Jam's site! |
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NCarolinaFiddler
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Joined 8/4/2011 707 Posts |
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Interesting tune. I found a couple of nice lessons on Youtube.
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DougD
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Joined 12/2/2007 5584 Posts |
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Here's a YouTube video of the late Paul David Smith playing this tune, which I'm sure he learned from "Snake" Chapman, as did a lot of other people: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIfS8OV7e7c According to the Fiddler's Companion, "Snake" said he learned it from hearing it played on the radio.
"Snake's" version is transcribed in Old Time Kentucky Fiddle Tunes. Bob Walter's version is in the Milliner-Koken Collection, and you can hear it (with nice accordion accompaniment) here: http://slippery-hill.com/M-K/ The accordion gives it a little different feel.
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martynspeck
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Joined 10/13/2010 558 Posts |
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http://www.tunearch.org/wiki/Johnny_Don%27t_Come_Home_Drunk
Here's the listing for it on tunesearch.
JOHNNY, DON'T COME HOME DRUNK. AKA - "John John Don't You Come Home Drunk," "Johnny Don't Get Drunk," "Johnny Johnny Don't Get Drunk," "Don't Come Home Drunk Johnny," "Jimmy Don't Come Home Drunk." Old-Time, Breakdown. USA; Kentucky, Missouri, Nebraska. D Major. Standard tuning (fiddle). AB (Silberberg): AABB (most versions). The melody is known as a Missouri tune and is one of '100 essential Missouri tunes' listed by Missouri fiddler Charlie Walden. However, it is widely disseminated throughout the 'greater Appalachian' and Mid-west regions. Some see similarities between this tune and the Irish reel "Miss Monahan/Miss Monaghan's Reel." Jeff Titon (2001) believes the tune may have been derived from a temperance song. Source Owen "Snake" Chapman (b. 1919, Kentucky) said he thought he might have learned it after hearing it played on the radio.
Sources for notated versions: Bob Walters (Burt County, Nebraska), recorded in 1954 [Christeson, Milliner & Koken]; Art Stamper (Ky.) [Phillips]; Stuart Williams [Songer]; Owen "Snake" Chapman (Whitesburg, Letcher County, Ky., 1990) [Titon]; Carthy Sisco [Silberberg].
Printed sources: R.P. Christeson (Old Time Fiddler's Repertory, vol. 1), 1973; p. 62. Milliner & Koken (Milliner-Koken Collection of American Fiddle Tunes), 2011; p. 347. Phillips (Traditional American Fiddle Tunes), vol. 1, 1994; p. 74. Silberberg (Tunes I Learned at Tractor Tavern), 2002; p. 76 (appears as "Johnny Don't Get Drunk"). Songer (Porland Collection), 1997; p. 115 (appears as "Johnny, Johnny, Don't Get Drunk"). Titon (Old-Time Kentucky Fiddle Tunes), 2001; No. 79, p. 107 (appears as "Johnny Don't Get Drunk").
Recorded sources: County 727, John Ashby - "John Ashby and the Free State Ramblers: Old Virginia Fiddling" (1970). County 779 & County CD2712, Art Stamper (Ky.) - "The Lost Fiddler" (c. 1982). June Appal 0067, Snake Chapman - "Seedtime on the Cumberland" (1992). Missouri State Old Time Fiddlers' Association 001, Pete McMahan - "Ozark Mountain Waltz" (1987). Missouri State Old Time Fiddlers' Association, Cyril Stinnett (1912-1986) - "Plain Old Time Fiddling." Missouri State Old Time Fiddlers' Association, MSOTFA 109, "Paddy on the Turnpike" (1993).
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NCarolinaFiddler
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Joined 8/4/2011 707 Posts |
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DougD
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Joined 12/2/2007 5584 Posts |
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The problem with lessons on YouTube is determining whether the person has actually learned the tune before they start teaching it.
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Edited by - DougD on 07/28/2012 08:19:05 |
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NCarolinaFiddler
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Joined 8/4/2011 707 Posts |
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It's the corn liquor...
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DougD
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Joined 12/2/2007 5584 Posts |
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Could be!
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DougD
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Joined 12/2/2007 5584 Posts |
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groundhogpeggy
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Joined 9/23/2009 4872 Posts |
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Ok... plenty of good examples... not to mention the Old Time Jam. Thanks for those nice listening links, y'all! Now, somebody tell Lora we need her to chime in here if she's got the time... and we are about set to go forward with this one... who will be first???? I'm gonna try... gonna shut off my phone and start hiding from all the needy people of the world... gonna try to get somewhere in some dark corner and sneak and hide and learn this thing and be the first to put a video up... who will dare to try to beat the groundhog at this???? And, please, whatever ya do... DON'T GET DRUNK... whether your name is Johnny or whoever... it makes you THINK you're playing the tune...lol... and unless we all get drunk too, it just don't sound like it to the rest of us! Good luck... let's go!!!!!
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modon
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Joined 2/16/2012 429 Posts |
07/28/2012 10:58:51
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I learned this one from Bill Rintz . I think he got his version from Bob Walters. Its got a few tricky little twists in it... Great tune! I better bone up on it . |
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Andah1andah2
 Joined 5/13/2009 891 Posts |
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I like this one too.
I learned the basics of the tune today. In fact, tomorrow I'll cross tune it ADAE. It'll sound better and I won't even have to change the fingering.
I also found this video of the lady named Illana playing this tune (second tune) on stage. I really like how she does the B part with the bow rocking and that "boom chucka" rhythm. Maybe someone could explain how to do that? I've been trying to get it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEyVps0Pcdw&feature=related
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groundhogpeggy
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Joined 9/23/2009 4872 Posts |
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Maybe Lora will chime in here with a lesson! I actually had some time to fiddle with some music this morning and tried to go through it a little...still don't know it but it's coming to me slowly. I should have a video before too long! |
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fiddlepogo
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Joined 6/27/2007 10202 Posts |
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quote:
Originally posted by Andah1andah2
I like this one too.
I learned the basics of the tune today. In fact, tomorrow I'll cross tune it ADAE. It'll sound better and I won't even have to change the fingering.
I also found this video of the lady named Illana playing this tune (second tune) on stage. I really like how she does the B part with the bow rocking and that "boom chucka" rhythm. Maybe someone could explain how to do that? I've been trying to get it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEyVps0Pcdw&feature=related
One phrase she'll do with Georgia Shuffle, with the backbeat single note on the downstroke and the 3 note slurs on the upstroke.
Then the next phrase she'll do with a Nashville Shuffle... but sometimes I think she starts with Nashville, then tacks on a series of Georgia Shuffles, which is a fairly common strategy.
The video Red Desert Violin posted should get you up to speed on both of them.
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groundhogpeggy
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Joined 9/23/2009 4872 Posts |
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Oh...I was gonna try to work that doggone smooth shuffle into this one somewhere...you think it'll work, Pogo? I wanted to start sampling these things and chose that one to start! |
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Midwest_Fiddler
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Joined 6/28/2007 552 Posts |
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Howdy all. Chirps Smith here after a long absence. My computer died and it took me way too long to get around to getting a new one. Anyway I like this idea of doing a tune a month. I have always like Johnny Don't Come Home Drunk and base my version on the way that Pete McMahan played it. I am attaching my rendition here for your listening pleasure.
Chirps
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hendrid
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Joined 7/15/2007 429 Posts |
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groundhogpeggy
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Joined 9/23/2009 4872 Posts |
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Hey Chirps that was a really cool version of that tune! I
Ike that one a lot and might work on mine to be something similar...vaguley, of course...lol...since you obviously got a lot more playing under yer belt than me...but it is a really nice version and I love the way you play it. Glad you're back! Thanks for the tune! |
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Andah1andah2
 Joined 5/13/2009 891 Posts |
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quote:
Originally posted by fiddlepogo
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Originally posted by Andah1andah2
I like this one too.
I learned the basics of the tune today. In fact, tomorrow I'll cross tune it ADAE. It'll sound better and I won't even have to change the fingering.
I also found this video of the lady named Illana playing this tune (second tune) on stage. I really like how she does the B part with the bow rocking and that "boom chucka" rhythm. Maybe someone could explain how to do that? I've been trying to get it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEyVps0Pcdw&feature=related
One phrase she'll do with Georgia Shuffle, with the backbeat single note on the downstroke and the 3 note slurs on the upstroke.
Then the next phrase she'll do with a Nashville Shuffle... but sometimes I think she starts with Nashville, then tacks on a series of Georgia Shuffles, which is a fairly common strategy.
The video Red Desert Violin posted should get you up to speed on both of them.
Thanks Michael. That is helpful. I'll examine it more closely. I was getting a little closer yesterday but still that "groove" eludes me. Sometimes I find myself doing a nashville shuffle and don't even realize it.
Anyway, I've been in ADAE for several days now and only been playing my D tunes: This one, St. Annes reel, 8th of Jan, Bonapartes retreat, Step around Johhny, etc. Someday I'll go back to standard or another tuning, too lazy to tune down the G string.
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groundhogpeggy
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Joined 9/23/2009 4872 Posts |
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I have the same thing...I think I'm doing one thing and realize a few minutes later either I switched to Nashville shuffle or else I was just always doing it....hard to know! |
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tonyelder
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Joined 8/7/2009 3306 Posts |
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I learned this from a CD by The Wild Turkeys / The Wild Turkeys. Great version, great CD. But I couldn't find a link to their music to share. So, I uploaded a short clip of their recording. At least you can hear some of the version I learned from.
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groundhogpeggy
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Joined 9/23/2009 4872 Posts |
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Really good...I feel like clapping sitting here, but I won't because I've got coffee to spill and it'd just get the dogs to barking...lol...but it makes me feel like it! Nice job, nice playing, nice rendition...plus your little doggie looks sweet! Thanks for the Wild Turkeys clip. Lots of energy in that ! By the way, all through listening to those our rooster and our neighbors' got into this cock-a-doodling match ack and forth and really gave your fiddling an eerie sort of overtone....lol...made it even extra cool! Thanks for posting... I hope to have one ready possibly next week...not sure if I can grab a minute for recording, but gonna try. |
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fiddle and banjo player
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Joined 7/5/2011 747 Posts |
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Very nice playing Midwest Fiddler & tonyelder!
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