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groundhogpeggy

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07/27/2012 15:04:35  View groundhogpeggy's Photo Albums  View groundhogpeggy's Blog  Reply with Quote

Here's the new tune for our August Virtual Fiddle Festival... we are now on track with the rest of the world, working on our new tune from August 1st to August 31st... at which point we will get another new tune.  Roro and the duck went all out to spill out another good tune... 'nother one I'm gonna have to learn from scratch!  It's common, popular... I've heard it here and there, but I've never played it... what about you?  Let's see what we can do with this one, guys... we have the whole month of August... hmmm... just think, by the time we are finished with this one maybe the weather will have cooled off some!!!!  We can hope.  Here we go, ENJOY!  I'm looking forward to hearing them and have a new time management plan for both listening and working on them, myself... LOL... let's get busy!!!!  http://youtu.be/9TvFqJVvZu8

fiddle and banjo player

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07/27/2012 17:49:21  View fiddle and banjo player's MP3 Archive  View fiddle and banjo player's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

'Johnny Don't Get Drunk' - that sounds like FUN!  big

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fiddlepLuker

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Joined 9/25/2007
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07/27/2012 17:52:22  Reply with Quote

Is this the same Johnny that chopped down the tree?

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groundhogpeggy

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07/27/2012 17:52:23  View groundhogpeggy's Photo Albums  View groundhogpeggy's Blog  Reply with Quote

Oh I forgot to remind folks that if they need to hear it, want tabs or backup tracks...as always the tune was taken from Old Time Jam's site!

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NCarolinaFiddler

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07/28/2012 07:00:49  View NCarolinaFiddler's MP3 Archive  View NCarolinaFiddler's Photo Albums  View NCarolinaFiddler's Blog  Reply with Quote

Interesting tune. I found a couple of nice lessons on Youtube.

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DougD

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07/28/2012 07:24:23  View DougD's MP3 Archive  View DougD's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Here's a YouTube video of the late Paul David Smith playing this tune, which I'm sure he learned from "Snake" Chapman, as did a lot of other people:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIfS8OV7e7c   According to the Fiddler's Companion, "Snake" said he learned it from hearing it played on the radio.

"Snake's" version is transcribed in Old Time Kentucky Fiddle Tunes. Bob Walter's version is in the Milliner-Koken Collection, and you can hear it (with nice accordion accompaniment) here:  http://slippery-hill.com/M-K/   The accordion gives it a little different feel.


Edited by - DougD on 07/28/2012 07:34:35

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martynspeck

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07/28/2012 07:32:47  View martynspeck's MP3 Archive  View martynspeck's Blog  Reply with Quote

http://www.tunearch.org/wiki/Johnny_Don%27t_Come_Home_Drunk

Here's the listing for it on tunesearch.

JOHNNY, DON'T COME HOME DRUNK. AKA - "John John Don't You Come Home Drunk," "Johnny Don't Get Drunk," "Johnny Johnny Don't Get Drunk," "Don't Come Home Drunk Johnny," "Jimmy Don't Come Home Drunk." Old-Time, Breakdown. USA; Kentucky, Missouri, Nebraska. D Major. Standard tuning (fiddle). AB (Silberberg): AABB (most versions). The melody is known as a Missouri tune and is one of '100 essential Missouri tunes' listed by Missouri fiddler Charlie Walden. However, it is widely disseminated throughout the 'greater Appalachian' and Mid-west regions. Some see similarities between this tune and the Irish reel "Miss Monahan/Miss Monaghan's Reel." Jeff Titon (2001) believes the tune may have been derived from a temperance song. Source Owen "Snake" Chapman (b. 1919, Kentucky) said he thought he might have learned it after hearing it played on the radio.

Sources for notated versions: Bob Walters (Burt County, Nebraska), recorded in 1954 [Christeson, Milliner & Koken]; Art Stamper (Ky.) [Phillips]; Stuart Williams [Songer]; Owen "Snake" Chapman (Whitesburg, Letcher County, Ky., 1990) [Titon]; Carthy Sisco [Silberberg].

Printed sources: R.P. Christeson (Old Time Fiddler's Repertory, vol. 1), 1973; p. 62. Milliner & Koken (Milliner-Koken Collection of American Fiddle Tunes), 2011; p. 347. Phillips (Traditional American Fiddle Tunes), vol. 1, 1994; p. 74. Silberberg (Tunes I Learned at Tractor Tavern), 2002; p. 76 (appears as "Johnny Don't Get Drunk"). Songer (Porland Collection), 1997; p. 115 (appears as "Johnny, Johnny, Don't Get Drunk"). Titon (Old-Time Kentucky Fiddle Tunes), 2001; No. 79, p. 107 (appears as "Johnny Don't Get Drunk").

Recorded sources: County 727, John Ashby - "John Ashby and the Free State Ramblers: Old Virginia Fiddling" (1970). County 779 & County CD2712, Art Stamper (Ky.) - "The Lost Fiddler" (c. 1982). June Appal 0067, Snake Chapman - "Seedtime on the Cumberland" (1992). Missouri State Old Time Fiddlers' Association 001, Pete McMahan - "Ozark Mountain Waltz" (1987). Missouri State Old Time Fiddlers' Association, Cyril Stinnett (1912-1986) - "Plain Old Time Fiddling." Missouri State Old Time Fiddlers' Association, MSOTFA 109, "Paddy on the Turnpike" (1993).


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NCarolinaFiddler

United States
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07/28/2012 07:57:24  View NCarolinaFiddler's MP3 Archive  View NCarolinaFiddler's Photo Albums  View NCarolinaFiddler's Blog  Reply with Quote

Here is a nice slow lesson then gradually speeds up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XINdEfKfsb4

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DougD

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07/28/2012 08:18:28  View DougD's MP3 Archive  View DougD's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

The problem with lessons on YouTube is determining whether the person has actually learned the tune before they start teaching it.


Edited by - DougD on 07/28/2012 08:19:05

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NCarolinaFiddler

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07/28/2012 08:23:27  View NCarolinaFiddler's MP3 Archive  View NCarolinaFiddler's Photo Albums  View NCarolinaFiddler's Blog  Reply with Quote

It's the corn liquor...

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DougD

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07/28/2012 08:25:25  View DougD's MP3 Archive  View DougD's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Could be!

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DougD

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07/28/2012 08:46:45  View DougD's MP3 Archive  View DougD's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Here's a nice recording of "Snake" Chapman playing this tune, from the Berea College sound archives (recorded by Bruce Greene): http://cdm15131.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15131coll4/id/277/rec/1

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groundhogpeggy

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07/28/2012 09:53:48  View groundhogpeggy's Photo Albums  View groundhogpeggy's Blog  Reply with Quote

Ok... plenty of good examples... not to mention the Old Time Jam.  Thanks for those nice listening links, y'all!  Now, somebody tell Lora we need her to chime in here if she's got the time... and we are about set to go forward with this one... who will be first????  I'm gonna try... gonna shut off my phone and start hiding from all the needy people of the world... gonna try to get somewhere in some dark corner and sneak and hide and learn this thing and be the first to put a video up... who will dare to try to beat the groundhog at this????  And, please, whatever ya do... DON'T GET DRUNK... whether your name is Johnny or whoever... it makes you THINK you're playing the tune...lol... and unless we all get drunk too, it just don't sound like it to the rest of us!  Good luck... let's go!!!!!

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modon

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07/28/2012 10:58:51  View modon's MP3 Archive  Reply with Quote

I learned this one from Bill Rintz . I think he got his version from Bob Walters. Its got a few tricky little twists in it... Great tune! I better bone up on it .

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Andah1andah2

Joined 5/13/2009
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07/28/2012 19:37:29  View Andah1andah2's MP3 Archive  View Andah1andah2's Photo Albums  View Andah1andah2's Blog  Reply with Quote

I like this one too.

I learned the basics of the tune today.  In fact, tomorrow I'll cross tune it ADAE.  It'll sound better and I won't even have to change the fingering.

 

I also found this video of the lady named Illana playing this tune (second tune) on stage.  I really like how she does the B part with the bow rocking and that  "boom chucka" rhythm.  Maybe someone could explain how to do that?  I've been trying to get it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEyVps0Pcdw&feature=related

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groundhogpeggy

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07/30/2012 11:04:17  View groundhogpeggy's Photo Albums  View groundhogpeggy's Blog  Reply with Quote

Maybe Lora will chime in here with a lesson! I actually had some time to fiddle with some music this morning and tried to go through it a little...still don't know it but it's coming to me slowly. I should have a video before too long!

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fiddlepogo

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07/30/2012 18:38:49  View fiddlepogo's MP3 Archive  View fiddlepogo's Photo Albums  View fiddlepogo's Blog  Reply with Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Andah1andah2

I like this one too.

I learned the basics of the tune today.  In fact, tomorrow I'll cross tune it ADAE.  It'll sound better and I won't even have to change the fingering.

 

I also found this video of the lady named Illana playing this tune (second tune) on stage.  I really like how she does the B part with the bow rocking and that  "boom chucka" rhythm.  Maybe someone could explain how to do that?  I've been trying to get it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEyVps0Pcdw&feature=related


One phrase she'll do with Georgia Shuffle, with the backbeat single note on the downstroke and the 3 note slurs on the upstroke.

Then the next phrase she'll do with a Nashville Shuffle... but sometimes I think she starts with Nashville, then tacks on a series of Georgia Shuffles, which is a fairly common strategy.

The video Red Desert Violin posted should get you up to speed on both of them.

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groundhogpeggy

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07/31/2012 04:34:08  View groundhogpeggy's Photo Albums  View groundhogpeggy's Blog  Reply with Quote

Oh...I was gonna try to work that doggone smooth shuffle into this one somewhere...you think it'll work, Pogo? I wanted to start sampling these things and chose that one to start!

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Midwest_Fiddler

United States
Joined 6/28/2007
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07/31/2012 08:42:16  View Midwest_Fiddler's MP3 Archive  View Midwest_Fiddler's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Howdy all. Chirps Smith here after a long absence. My computer died and it took me way too long to get around to getting a new one. Anyway I like this idea of doing a tune a month. I have always like Johnny Don't Come Home Drunk and base my version on the way that Pete McMahan played it. I am attaching my rendition here for your listening pleasure.

Chirps



Johnny Don't Come Home Drunk

   
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hendrid

United States
Joined 7/15/2007
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07/31/2012 09:04:46  Reply with Quote

I like this Llana version:  OOPS  already posted,  oh well......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XINdEfKfsb4&feature=related


Edited by - hendrid on 07/31/2012 09:07:33

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groundhogpeggy

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07/31/2012 11:02:17  View groundhogpeggy's Photo Albums  View groundhogpeggy's Blog  Reply with Quote

Hey Chirps that was a really cool version of that tune! I Ike that one a lot and might work on mine to be something similar...vaguley, of course...lol...since you obviously got a lot more playing under yer belt than me...but it is a really nice version and I love the way you play it. Glad you're back! Thanks for the tune!

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Andah1andah2

Joined 5/13/2009
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07/31/2012 16:42:11  View Andah1andah2's MP3 Archive  View Andah1andah2's Photo Albums  View Andah1andah2's Blog  Reply with Quote

quote:
Originally posted by fiddlepogo

quote:
Originally posted by Andah1andah2

I like this one too.

I learned the basics of the tune today.  In fact, tomorrow I'll cross tune it ADAE.  It'll sound better and I won't even have to change the fingering.

 

I also found this video of the lady named Illana playing this tune (second tune) on stage.  I really like how she does the B part with the bow rocking and that  "boom chucka" rhythm.  Maybe someone could explain how to do that?  I've been trying to get it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEyVps0Pcdw&feature=related


One phrase she'll do with Georgia Shuffle, with the backbeat single note on the downstroke and the 3 note slurs on the upstroke.

Then the next phrase she'll do with a Nashville Shuffle... but sometimes I think she starts with Nashville, then tacks on a series of Georgia Shuffles, which is a fairly common strategy.

The video Red Desert Violin posted should get you up to speed on both of them.


Thanks Michael.  That is helpful.  I'll examine it more closely.  I was getting a little closer yesterday but still that "groove" eludes me.  Sometimes I find myself doing a nashville shuffle and don't even realize it.  

Anyway, I've been in ADAE for several days now and only been playing my D tunes: This one, St. Annes reel, 8th of Jan, Bonapartes retreat, Step around Johhny, etc.  Someday I'll go back to standard or another tuning,  too lazy to tune down the G string.blush

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groundhogpeggy

United States
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07/31/2012 17:51:06  View groundhogpeggy's Photo Albums  View groundhogpeggy's Blog  Reply with Quote

I have the same thing...I think I'm doing one thing and realize a few minutes later either I switched to Nashville shuffle or else I was just always doing it....hard to know!

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tonyelderPlayers Union Member

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08/02/2012 00:00:24  View tonyelder's MP3 Archive  View tonyelder's Photo Albums  View tonyelder's Blog    Reply with Quote

I learned this from a CD by The Wild Turkeys / The Wild Turkeys. Great version, great CD. But I couldn't find a link to their music to share. So, I uploaded a short clip of their recording. At least you can hear some of the version I learned from.

 



D1 Johnny Don't Get Drunk


WT Johnny Don't Get Drunk


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groundhogpeggy

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08/02/2012 04:47:15  View groundhogpeggy's Photo Albums  View groundhogpeggy's Blog  Reply with Quote

Really good...I feel like clapping sitting here, but I won't because I've got coffee to spill and it'd just get the dogs to barking...lol...but it makes me feel like it! Nice job, nice playing, nice rendition...plus your little doggie looks sweet! Thanks for the Wild Turkeys clip. Lots of energy in that ! By the way, all through listening to those our rooster and our neighbors' got into this cock-a-doodling match ack and forth and really gave your fiddling an eerie sort of overtone....lol...made it even extra cool! Thanks for posting... I hope to have one ready possibly next week...not sure if I can grab a minute for recording, but gonna try.

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fiddle and banjo player

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08/02/2012 14:25:16  View fiddle and banjo player's MP3 Archive  View fiddle and banjo player's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Very nice playing Midwest Fiddler & tonyelder! 

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