Did any mention the Varsovienne???

"Put Your Little Foot Right Here" is a varsovienne, not a waltz.

Yes, there are some Cajun tunes that you could argue are like 9/8 time. The triplet is a common figure in Cajun playing. So a tune that goes ONE two-la-la THREE-la-la (or the triplet on any two of the beats) feels 9/8-ish. Agree that the THREE in a Cajun waltz attaches to the ONE. You could as well call the beats of some waltzes THREE - ONE - two - THREE - ONE as what I wrote first. I know mazurkas by Varise Conner, and I think Canray Fontenot. I have a suspicion that other Cajun mazurkas may hide in tunes now called waltzes.

Hi folks!! I need help with a doubt. I realy love the OOk Pik waltz. i've been listening some variations of this music in youtube but I do not have the partiture. I know the song was made by Frankie Rodgers but there are many variations. Some of them are beautiful. how can I get the partiture? is there some accurate video lesson about?

Sorry my english. I'm from Brazil and I love fiddlering, but here is not so popular.

thank's

here is an example of Ook Pik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSxEtUnRkfg&feature=related

thank's

Look for Art Stamper and Aubrie Haney, they both play it on albums. I prefer the chords in the Haney version. I don't know if it's been written anywhere.

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Hi folks!! I need help with a doubt. I realy love the OOk Pik waltz. i've been listening some variations of this music in youtube but I do not have the partiture. I know the song was made by Frankie Rodgers but there are many variations. Some of them are beautiful. how can I get the partiture? is there some accurate video lesson about?

Sorry my english. I'm from Brazil and I love fiddlering, but here is not so popular.

 

thank's

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Partiture?

Do you mean "notation" or "sheet music"???

http://www.folksociety.org/slowjam/ookpik.pdf

If you mean tablature, maybe this mandolin tablature will help:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3553/3573985564_daa04402d3_o.jpg

Actually, there's lots of good resources in the Mandolin Cafe thread:

http://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=313

Edited by - fiddlepogo on 11/30/2012 13:52:41

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Did any mention the Varsovienne???

"Put Your Little Foot Right Here" is a varsovienne, not a waltz.

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so is the "in china they never eat chile"

ya know, Aye aye aye aye, in china they never eat chili, so sing me one more verse that's worse than the first & waltz me around again willy!"

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Ummmm.... I THINK the real name for that is "Cielito Lindo".

Edited by - fiddlepogo on 11/30/2012 13:56:11

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Originally posted by Castagno

Hi folks!! I need help with a doubt. I realy love the OOk Pik waltz. i've been listening some variations of this music in youtube but I do not have the partiture. I know the song was made by Frankie Rodgers but there are many variations. Some of them are beautiful. how can I get the partiture? is there some accurate video lesson about?

Sorry my english. I'm from Brazil and I love fiddlering, but here is not so popular.

 

thank's

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Partiture?

Do you mean "notation" or "sheet music"???

http://www.folksociety.org/slowjam/ookpik.pdf

If you mean tablature, maybe this mandolin tablature will help:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3553/3573985564_daa04402d3_o.jpg

Actually, there's lots of good resources in the Mandolin Cafe thread:

http://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=313

 

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In fact is sheet music. Thank you very much!!

Interesting thread. I've just been struggling with the Playford tune "Hunt the Squiril", published in 1709 well before the waltz came into being. A lot of people don't like it, and I can see why. The way it's normally played these days it's a touch brash and squawky and certainly seems to lack much subtlety (it's normally written in 6/8 and played like a rather half-hearted jig I'd say). So I was trying to find a way of playing it nicely.

After looking out the original version and finding a few of the note lengths were different to the modern version (it was also in 6/4 time), I made a MIDI file to see what it sounded like. Well I was pretty amazed - it's a funky syncopated waltz rhythm that just makes you want to dance. Totally unlike the way it's played these days. Now I just have to get my fiddling to sound like that!

I should say this isn't the first old tune I've had this experience with. Often you find unusual time signatures in old music; there are a lot of English tunes in 3/2 time, for example and sometimes time signatures alternate (between 3/4 and 6/8 for instance). They're probably trying to tell you something about the rhythm, but it's often not clear what. Probably it means you're not playing it right (!) but I suspect the interpretation of time signatures may have changed over the years so it's not always easy to work out how it should sound.

In any case, I think it's well worth persevering to understand these rhythms and not just fit them into "waltz" or "jig" categories. Even if they are written in 3/4 time, that may just be notational convenience and not necessarily reflect the way they should be played.