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dzen

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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  14:18:23  Reply with Quote

Big Sciota that is. How is it pronounced? I've also seen it spelled Scioty. A friend has ancestors named Sciota and they pronounced it sy-oh-tah with the second syllable accented.

woodwiz

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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  14:25:43  View woodwiz's MP3 Archive  View woodwiz's Classified Ads  View woodwiz's Photo Albums  View woodwiz's Blog  Reply with Quote


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scioto_River

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baylady

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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  15:04:08  View baylady's Photo Albums  Send baylady a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote


Fabulous tune......fabulous musicians....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyj7m0QdFkM

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maple man

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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  15:43:30  View maple man's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote


I had wondered that myself. Thanks for the info and the great tune

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groundhogpeggy

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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  16:02:00  View groundhogpeggy's Blog  Reply with Quote


I thought you meant scordatura, at first. yeah... the river... called si-ota, or si-oty if your in certain hollers, which would be hollows if you're someplace else.

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mudbug

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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  16:54:07  View mudbug's MP3 Archive  View mudbug's Photo Albums  View mudbug's Blog  Reply with Quote


So is this considered a BG or OT tune, or does it just depend on how you play it?

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baylady

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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  17:31:09  View baylady's Photo Albums  Send baylady a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote


Mudbug, it's in the BG category on FHO.

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Lonesome Fiddler

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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  17:35:52  View Lonesome Fiddler's MP3 Archive  View Lonesome Fiddler's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote


I play it as an old time tune, repeating the third phrase of the B part during the B's first runthrough just to give it that OT crookedness.

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DougD

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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  17:49:00  View DougD's MP3 Archive  View DougD's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote


Here's the story on this old time tune: http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/BI_BILE.htm I think I learned it from the Hot Mud Family, but I could be wrong.

And baylady, you're right - you gotta like that bunch. Sometimes that series really got it (whatever "it" is).


Edited by - DougD on 02/08/2010 17:54:09

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bsedPlayers Union Member

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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  17:49:34  View bsed's MP3 Archive  View bsed's Photo Albums  View bsed's Blog  Reply with Quote


Big Scioty bluegrass? No WAY! It's as OT as you can get!

BTW, our banjo player pronounces it SKEE-AA-TY

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fiddlecraver

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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  20:37:00  View fiddlecraver's MP3 Archive  Reply with Quote


bluegrass versions ive heard suck the life out of it

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tango_grass

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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  22:41:39  View tango_grass's MP3 Archive  View tango_grass's Photo Albums  View tango_grass's Blog  Send tango_grass a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote


I'm have to disagree with the anti bluegrass versions. There is no bad way to play this tune. Nice and peppy bluegrass style, or nice and slow and melodic, old time.
Russ Barenberg, Jerry Douglas and Edgar Meyer absolutely kill it on Hop, Skip, Wobble. If you don;t have that CD or version, run out and get it.

Big Sciota is a great tune.

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Tobias

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Posted - 02/09/2010 :  02:29:22  View Tobias's MP3 Archive  View Tobias's Photo Albums  View Tobias's Blog  Reply with Quote


I agree 100% with Fiddlecraver.

But the same can be said about some of the versions I have heard by new OT groups.

The old Burl og Sherman Hammons versions seems to be ignored by many these days.

/Tobias

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DougD

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Posted - 02/09/2010 :  04:43:25  View DougD's MP3 Archive  View DougD's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote


Tobias, I may be wrong, but I don't think the Hammons Family recordings are currently available, which doesn't help.

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Tobias

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Posted - 02/09/2010 :  04:46:29  View Tobias's MP3 Archive  View Tobias's Photo Albums  View Tobias's Blog  Reply with Quote


quote:
Originally posted by DougD

Tobias, I may be wrong, but I don't think the Hammons Family recordings are currently available, which doesn't help.



Good point

I have been waiting for ever for a release. Rounder said they might on Rounder Archive.

/Tobias

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DougD

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Posted - 02/09/2010 :  04:53:39  View DougD's MP3 Archive  View DougD's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote


Rounder has made an arrangement with Amazon to provide "on demand" versions of some out-of-print titles, which seems promising. I've still got the LP set.

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Tobias

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Posted - 02/09/2010 :  05:00:20  View Tobias's MP3 Archive  View Tobias's Photo Albums  View Tobias's Blog  Reply with Quote


Sounds good.
I have a "non-official" version, but really want an original...especially for the extensive liner notes.

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carlbPlayers Union Member

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Posted - 02/09/2010 :  05:46:15  View carlb's MP3 Archive  View carlb's Photo Albums  View carlb's Blog  Reply with Quote


quote:
Originally posted by Tobias

The old Burl og Sherman Hammons versions seems to be ignored by many these days.
/Tobias



Yes, I agree. After all, I, and many others, did learn it originally from how Burl played it.
Carl

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fiddlecraver

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Posted - 02/09/2010 :  08:24:09  View fiddlecraver's MP3 Archive  Reply with Quote


I guess i made a strong statement there. Lol! Its just my knee jerk reaction to the bluerass versions Ive heard... something inside says NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! Im not antibluegrass. Just like any other genre, there are a few players who have the ability to cross into other genres effectively.

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George Shepherd

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Posted - 02/09/2010 :  08:38:49  View George Shepherd's MP3 Archive  View George Shepherd's Blog  Reply with Quote


quote:
Originally posted by baylady

Fabulous tune......fabulous musicians....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyj7m0QdFkM


Couldn't agree more

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dzen

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Posted - 02/09/2010 :  15:38:06  Reply with Quote


Thanks for the link, Baylady, great version. What a great series of videos, I keep seeing new ones and it seems like they're all good. But I must admit that the tune that really hit me is a bluegrass version, I just heard it as a cheesy TablEdit MIDI file. This version is more Sally Ann-ish than the one I heard (not that there's anything wrong with that).

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Lonesome Fiddler

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Posted - 02/09/2010 :  16:33:38  View Lonesome Fiddler's MP3 Archive  View Lonesome Fiddler's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote


David Bragger does a beautiful version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fJQBJ1PhPQ


Edited by - Lonesome Fiddler on 02/09/2010 16:34:37

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fiddlecraver

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Posted - 02/10/2010 :  07:49:00  View fiddlecraver's MP3 Archive  Reply with Quote


Bing Brothers caught something really nice with this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR8_p5PQoqI

I like Aly Bains fiddling too... which I dont think is bluegrassy at all.

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scrubberPlayers Union Member

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Posted - 02/10/2010 :  11:05:22  View scrubber's MP3 Archive  View scrubber's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote


Thanks for starting this thread!

I've been asked to learn this tune, and I was hesitant (since I couldn't even SAY it, let alone play it)!

Now I can say it two or three (acceptable) ways and (thanks to the links) play it too!!

dave

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Tobias

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Denmark
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Posted - 02/10/2010 :  11:12:59  View Tobias's MP3 Archive  View Tobias's Photo Albums  View Tobias's Blog  Reply with Quote


quote:
Originally posted by Lonesome Fiddler

David Bragger does a beautiful version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fJQBJ1PhPQ



Agreed! :-)

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MarkS

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Posted - 02/26/2010 :  14:43:52  View MarkS's MP3 Archive  View MarkS's Blog  Reply with Quote


Perhaps this is the same as baylady's, but since I can't follow that link, I thought I would throw in my two cents...

My favorite version is a clip from the Trans-Atlantic series. Filmed at Mountgreenan Mansion House Hotel in Troon, Ayrshire Scotland.
Aly Bain - Fiddle
Jay Ungar - Fiddle
Molly Mason - Bass
Russ Barenberg - Guitar
Jim Sutherland - Bodhrán
Jerry Douglas - Lap Steel Guitar
Brilliant playing, whether a fan of this style or not, it is flawless, and they look like they're just having so much fun playing it. I wish they had mic'd the guitar better, lots of cool stuff going on in his riff. plus... you can watch it in 480p

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LVnjQwUXrA

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