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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Selling old violin - y1713


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vkotenko - Posted - 10/21/2010:  06:35:46


I have in possession a very old one - 1713.
If someone is interested, please visit Fiddle Hangout Classified for more info and pictures on link fiddlehangout.com/topic/17429
Regards

giannaviolins - Posted - 10/21/2010:  08:54:23


This is, of course, not a 1717 Stradivari.

Do watch the express warranty of description aspects - people get bitten by this on a regular basis.

mswlogo - Posted - 10/21/2010:  09:39:52


Kind of odd seeing a $1,000,000.00 violin standing up on a wire frame bed. With missing strings.

Why are there photos of two different violins.

Makes you wonder why he can't put up a classified ad and post links to it properly because the link to the classified ad and pictures is fiddlehangout.com/classified/2237 not what he posted above.


Edited by - mswlogo on 10/21/2010 09:41:14

groundhogbrains - Posted - 10/21/2010:  10:49:12


It's cute. I'd buy it for $100.

vkotenko - Posted - 10/21/2010:  13:54:00


1. It is the same violin. Pictures were taken from photographer and myself. Of course. On different place.
2. I do not have time to investigate how to unlock first add after given add in Classified section. That is why 2nd post.
3. It is not a frame bed - it is a cloth drier. Does anybody bying strings? Or violin? According to missing strings.
3. I do not want to justify myself, according to your statements
4. If anybody is interested in violin, tell me what to do to prove it. Do you want me to take a picture of me with USA today to see the date on newspaper? Name it.
5. if nobody is interested I will switch on another forum

Regards.

giannaviolins - Posted - 10/21/2010:  14:08:17


Hi,

It looks like a typical trade violin with the typical label. They go for $100 to maybe $300 on eBay all the time. If the neck angle is good and there are no concealed cracks and it has interior blocks and a glued in bar, then someone here might be interested. How much do you want for it?

Have fun!

Steve

vkotenko - Posted - 10/21/2010:  14:23:47


Hi,
Thanks for for a post. As I said I really know nothing about violins. This violine needs to be checked by some experienced violin expert to judge condition, origin and oldness. There is only a memory of an owner that someone in family had brought this violin from Czech at beginning of 20th century. This violine is very, very old. There is some standpoints that this violine is very worth.
Regards.

mswlogo - Posted - 10/21/2010:  14:59:13


quote:
Originally posted by vkotenko

1. It is the same violin. Pictures were taken from photographer and myself. Of course. On different place.
2. I do not have time to investigate how to unlock first add after given add in Classified section. That is why 2nd post.
3. It is not a frame bed - it is a cloth drier. Does anybody bying strings? Or violin? According to missing strings.
3. I do not want to justify myself, according to your statements
4. If anybody is interested in violin, tell me what to do to prove it. Do you want me to take a picture of me with USA today to see the date on newspaper? Name it.
5. if nobody is interested I will switch on another forum

Regards.



Maybe you don't realize (since you tripped over other parts of putting up an ad) but your asking price is a Million dollars !!!

Like others said, it looks like a $100.00 violin.

If you are serious about your asking price you don't stand up the violin on anything but a Violin stand.

You said yourself you know nothing about them yet you think it's worth a lot.

It's very likely a COPY and copies can be old too and not worth much. That 1713 number doesn't mean it was made in 1713.

giannaviolins - Posted - 10/21/2010:  17:25:07


The violin isn't a real Stradivari, isn't 18th C, isn't worth 10% of $1M.

I'm not sure why it's listed here.

To sell quickly, put it on eBay with no reserve. Many eBay buyers like such things very much.

coelhoe - Posted - 10/21/2010:  18:25:55


No need to go through all the reasons: I agree with the two above. This is a copy, a trade instrument, not worth much money, maybe one hundred to two hundred dollars ($100.00-$200.00) . The split in the middle of the top and the crack on the left side are significant, especially that crack which looks as if something very heavy crashed against the top. In spite of he body damage, it does not look to have been played that much. But, please, this is not very old, and not a Strad, not really even a good copy of a Strad.

I say the same: put it on eBay.

vkotenko - Posted - 10/22/2010:  00:52:31


Thank you all for your post. That are information I need. That is the reason why I put such a price. To collect answers to my doubts according to that instrument. Otherwise I wouldn't get them from you.
Thank you all once again.
Regards.

giannaviolins - Posted - 10/22/2010:  03:07:09


Could try

"I have a violin. I don't know what it is. Please help. Here are pictures. The label indicates . . . ." That's as effective as posting a bogus price.

hardykefes - Posted - 10/23/2010:  18:10:25


Definitely no Strad. Color wrong, f-holes wrong, scroll wrong, neck heal wrong, label too new, etc....
Most likely German factory made copy in mediocre condition.
If equipped with integral bass bar = $100 to $300. If with graduated top plate and true bass bar could go up as much as $700 (at least Elderly would dare to sell it for this).
Can still be a good sounding instrument due to old wood (probably begin 1900 or so).



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