Visit Acoustic Electric Strings
Want to hide these Google ads? Join the Players Union!

 All Forums
 Other Fiddle-Related Topics
 Product Reviews and Shopping Advice
 ARCHIVED TOPIC: codabow vs. glasser bows


Please note this is an archived topic, so it is locked and unable to be replied to. You may, however, start a new topic and refer to this topic with a link.

JCB - Posted - 06/17/2010:  06:16:25


I'm looking at these 2 bows, Codabow and Glasser, wondered if any one had both of them and how they compare.
thanks

bj - Posted - 06/17/2010:  06:39:06


I've played both (not owned both) but in truth that's irrelevant. Your playing these bows on your fiddles is what's going to tell the tale. What we think of them doesn't matter a whit. Both are reputable bow companies and both have their adherents, so you won't get hurt either way. It's what works best for you.

wormbower - Posted - 06/17/2010:  07:35:26


When my Glasser 2000 bow needed to be rehaired, my luthier said it used an unusual screw mechanism to hold the hair in the frog. He said that made it really difficult to rehair and also prone to loosening or breaking again, and that he would probably never rehair another bow like this again. YMMV.

Paul

Ron - Posted - 06/17/2010:  07:43:37


I have a glasser braided synthetic bow and have had it re haired twice with no problem.
I like it.

chasmatt - Posted - 06/17/2010:  07:51:57


I have a Glasser composite and a Coda Diamond GX. The Coda pulls a much richer sound than the Glasser. But, the Glasser is still a good sounding bow. I use the Glasser at jams. The Coda at every other function.

martingeetar - Posted - 06/17/2010:  08:58:21


i have had a coda prodigy for about 6 months, LOVE IT!

Jessi - Posted - 06/17/2010:  10:27:26


(Of course, it depends on what matches your fiddle....and I learned that no two Codabows are alike, even though they are machine made. I heard very definite differences between bows of the same model.)

I have four bows that I use: an older Glasser, a $500 pernumbuco bow, a Codabow Joule and also GX. The Glasser was great to learn on. It gave me a sold, loud sound - but it didn't pull any overtones from my fiddle. It was comfortable to play, and tracked well. It was also cheap. It still has my chew marks on the tip from when I was in middle school.

My Joule is comfortable to play (I love the shape of the frog) and makes playing drones and doublestops easier than my wood bow. It also tracks well, and has just a little bit more length and weight than a traditional bow, which really does make me feel more confident when I play tunes like Lost Indian, Kitchen Girl and Whiskey for Breakfast. I love how it sounds on the drones in The Blackest Crow. It has a bit more weight - so if you like to play with a viola bow like my teacher does, this is a good choice.

Now, the GX makes {MY} fiddle ring! It's easier to play in tune with this bow because it seems to bring out all the complex overtones of my fiddle. It also makes the strings resonate in such a way that a note is sustained, and when I leave that string and start a new string, that previous note is still ringing into the start of the next note. My fiddle's never done that before!! It's a little like the sound of a hardanger fiddle. It has great bounce, and I can lift it and re-place it for a quick bow correction without effort. I love how it sounds for jigs (quick light response) and for waltzes (sustained ringing complex notes).

For some reason, when I can hear the overtones in a note, my poor self-taught vibrato sounds better. It seems like I can tell when and how to roll my finger so that it doesn't fight against the vibrations I pulled with my bow.

Anyhow, it's really fun to have different bows to play with. It's like having a big wardrobe of colorful clothes to choose from everyday - something that matches your mood at the moment.


Edited by - Jessi on 06/17/2010 10:36:05

RobBob - Posted - 06/17/2010:  13:16:28


I have never played a Glasser that could compete with a Coda bow. The Coda I have is now called Classic, and was one of the early ones they made. It is a work horse and does the heavy lifting in tough situations. It is not my best bow, which does not go on many shows. It is the one I use 95% of the time though.

Susan H - Posted - 06/17/2010:  13:26:11


I'm using a CodaBow NX and I love it. My violin teacher noticed an improvement in playing right away when I got it. I plan on getting a GX in the future, but that will be sometime down the road.

Susan
Live Better, Play Bluegrass

Skunkhound - Posted - 06/17/2010:  18:33:46


I have the Coda Prodigy. I really like it, and it didn't break the bank.

cheekee - Posted - 06/17/2010:  19:07:26


i have the codabow prodigy too. i tried the diamond one at the same time. i think i'm not good enough to appreciate the difference, so i picked the cheaper one. i'm pretty darn happy with it...and its a vast improvement from the mushy ol' thing i had been using.

fiddlefancy - Posted - 06/18/2010:  04:16:22


I have a Coda Conservatory and a Coda Diamond GX. Love them both.

notlwonk - Posted - 07/18/2010:  11:10:59


quote:
Originally posted by wormbower

When my Glasser 2000 bow needed to be rehaired, my luthier said it used an unusual screw mechanism to hold the hair in the frog. He said that made it really difficult to rehair and also prone to loosening or breaking again, and that he would probably never rehair another bow like this again. YMMV.

Paul


The luthier I've been doing business with told me that Glasser will recondition for a very modest price. (Don't quote me but I think it was $22, no doubt there will also be shipping etc.) You can go to their website and find a local dealer.

JCB - Posted - 07/19/2010:  05:38:43


Well, I ended up with Codabow SX. Had Fisher Violin ship the NX and the SX. They were to ship the Glasser as well, but were out of stock. The shipping was free and no obligation to buy. I didn't realise that bows were different sounding, just wish the cheaper one had sounded better. Very happy with my choice though.

tiquose - Posted - 07/19/2010:  12:43:51


I'm glad for this discussion because I'm considering buying a Codabow sometime this year.

Recently I asked Quinn Violins about the differences between the various Codabow models. Here is what Chris had to say:

One of the important distinctions is the balance point. For a learning player, the Prodigy or Diamond NX bows are best because they are balanced toward the tip. This helps a novice to keep the bow "into the string", and also makes it easy to change bow direction. These bows are more forgiving but would not be suitable for a skilled player for the same reasons. You wouldn't be easily able to make these bows bounce, for example.

The Diamond SX and GX models are for advanced or professional players. I know many symphony players that have a GX bow for hazardous duty such as outdoor gigs, or for use in the teaching studio.

The SX bow is sort-of in the middle between NX and GX as far as playability. It's not overly tip heavy, and a skilled player can make it do anything needed including off-the-string techniques. "

We can also specify the weight of a bow, depending on the player's preference. Usually the bows have a weight of about 60 grams, but that can be adjusted in production to be a gram lighter or heavier. It only takes a few days to have a bow made with a particular weight, and there isn't a surcharge for this.

rosinhead - Posted - 09/16/2010:  05:15:29


I went and tried a handful of bows yesterday. Among them were the Coda NX and SX. While they both had a nice smooth pull to them, the SX won by a hair (no pun intended :)). The SX produced nice overtones and nuances that the NX just didn't seem to have. I was able to get the dealer down $50 on the price so I felt pretty good about the deal overall. If you look online everyone has the same price listed for the these bows due to an agreement with Coda as a dealer. So don't be afraid to ask for a better price if you decide on one. They are well worth the money either way.



Rosinhead

rgmofnyc - Posted - 09/16/2010:  06:12:11


quote:
Originally posted by bj

Your playing these bows on your fiddles is what's going to tell the tale.


I have to agree with bj on this one. I mean, the Codas are definitely finer bows, and their prices relate that, but the Glassers are very decent bows as well and are much more affordable. In the end, it's going to depend on how they sound to you. If you can produce good tunes with the Glasser and don't see the vast price difference as a suitable enough reason to pitch out for the Coda, then there's your answer. But if the Coda makes magic for you, then I'd consider spending the extra moolah.

Susan H - Posted - 09/16/2010:  08:34:04


Truthfully, which ever one sounds and feels best to you is the one you should buy. I have a CodaBow NX and I love it. I have played the Glasser bow and it's just not for me. Go with your gut on this one.

Susan
Live Better, Play Bluegrass



Want to hide these Google ads? Join the Players Union!




You are not logged in.
Log In


Not a member? Create an Account (FREE!)



390 FIDDLE LOVERS ONLINE

HOME | FORUMS | MEMBERS | MEDIA ARCHIVE | TABS & LESSONS | CLASSIFIEDS | REVIEWS | LINKS | CALENDAR | STORE | TERMS OF USE