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CelticRose - Posted - 03/10/2010: 17:15:43
It's not the one pictured that I did the BIN on. Different model #,different style chinrest than shown in ebay pic (that pic showed a chinrest on the instrument-this one arrived not being on the violin) and the bridge is a blank and looks too big to be put on this fiddle-I had asked the seller & he assured me I was getting the bridge that went with the instrument. Obviously I'm sorta disappointed-I was thinking I could restring,put the bridge on & be playing. Description of the auction has the "sold as is" paragraph along with "I don't know anything about violins" bit. Looks like I'll be going to a luthier & have to pay for having a proper fitting bridge put on.
DougD - Posted - 03/10/2010: 17:33:08
If you feel this is not the instrument you bid on you should take it up with the seller. Without any details about the auction it's hard to comment further. There are some very nice 7/8 size violins around.
Edited by - DougD on 03/10/2010 17:33:56
CelticRose - Posted - 03/10/2010: 17:54:43
I'm considering that-in a sense it is what I bid on & it isn't. The seller shows the label inside the fiddle as being model #2 and I have model #7. He never mentioned he had more than one and the one I would get may vary slightly. My biggest let down is really about the bridge for the reason I mentioned in my earlier post. I'm wondering how much a luthier is gonna want to do a bridge & install it. All in all it's a great student violin as far as condition.
fiddlefancy - Posted - 03/10/2010: 18:12:39
eBay has buyer protection and even if the seller says as is no return, if the item is not the item you bid on or there is a problem not described in the auction you can challenge the seller. Just talk to the seller and explain the problem, if there is no satisfaction you can file a claim, you might win, you might not. I had to challenge once and got my money back. The other time I just explained the problem to the seller and was refunded for the item and shipping both ways without filing a claim. All depends on the attitude of the seller. Hope everything works out for you the way you want it to.
bj - Posted - 03/10/2010: 18:17:06
It sounds like he either sent the wrong fiddle or pulled a bait and switch. If you paid through paypal or a CC I'd take it up with the seller. You can get your money back and the seller knows this.
Communicate. If the seller knows you are a bit perturbed at the way things were misrepresented, there may be some adjustment made. Take photos and send so the seller can see what you're talking about.
Re the bridge, this can vary, but I've been charged between 20 and 40 bucks for a bridge recut. Have the soundpost checked too. If the bridge is snarky, chances are the soundpost isn't in the right place either. Also, did you measure it? Is it the size you expected to get?
Edited by - bj on 03/10/2010 18:19:18
OTJunky - Posted - 03/10/2010: 18:17:32
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Originally posted by CelticRose
I'm considering that-in a sense it is what I bid on & it isn't.
I dunno - seems to me that if you bid on #2 and the seller sent you #7, then you didn't get what you bid on... --OTJ
CelticRose - Posted - 03/10/2010: 19:19:36
Dang you kids are a friendly bunch! And much appreciated. Ok now to answer the inquiries...I also wondered if the fiddle was a 7/8,so measured and checked my book on violin repair/restoration and it is indeed a 7/8!
Now for the "twilight zone" part of this-I just checked the listing again,after reading your suggestions,looking at the pics. I'm very observant & now I feel like I'm going dippy. I swear to you when I zoomed the pics this afternoon both the label on the inside said model # 2 as did the tag hanging from one of the tuning pegs. And it was a curvy #2 as you're seeing in this post.In checking it again just now,the pics are showing me the model # I actually have....#7. The only diff now is that the chin rests are definately different-the one I got fitting over the tailpiece & is made in W. Germany. At this rate,it's hardly worth writing the seller about as while I feel I know what I saw,the listing is showing different since I checked it early this afternoon. I don't think you can change auction photos after the listing ends. None the less,while I am constantly complimented on my fine eye for detail...I'm just bewildered & hoping I'm not losin it.
Hmm $20-$40 isn't bad -esp since setting up one of my mandos cost $65. I'll have to see if I can find a very local luthier.
woodwiz - Posted - 03/10/2010: 19:35:59
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Originally posted by CelticRose
None the less,while I am constantly complimented on my fine eye for detail...I'm just bewildered & hoping I'm not losin it.
Just wait a few years. Y'ain't seen nothin', yet! 
CelticRose - Posted - 03/10/2010: 19:47:20
May not be losin it after all......looked up on ebay if pics can be changed after a listing ends-luckily someone else asked this very thing-and the answer is.... if the photo is hosted on ebay,no. But-if your pics are hosted anywhere else.....yes indeedy they can. How to tell? right click over the photo & it gives you the HTML for the pics in which the pic URL(s) are listed. The main pic was hosted by ebay. the others,with model # closeups,were not. There's a few pic updates in the HTML too,but I'm leaving the matter alone. Makes me feel better to know I saw what I saw. *wipes brow in relief*
fiddleiphile - Posted - 03/11/2010: 04:11:19
It seems to me that you had better have a look inside and make sure it has a sound post. Most shippers don't take that much care in handling. If there is'nt something rattling inside and it was shipped with no string tention, I would be wondering how the sound post stayed in place. Might be too long and also cause problems after strung. (crack the top under tention)
Hold off on giving feedback, it's a powerful lever over sellers these days. Ebay is trying to crack down on scammers. If you give a bad feedback Ebay will want to know why and check in to the matter.
Edited by - fiddleiphile on 03/11/2010 04:17:41
fiddlefancy - Posted - 03/11/2010: 05:50:22
One thing I do when I bid on a fiddle on Ebay, I download all the photos in the ad at the time of the bid on my computer. That way I always know what I was bidding on in case of a problem, there are a lot of unethical people out there (a lot of good people too but they don't cause problems).
CelticRose - Posted - 03/11/2010: 07:18:55
soundpost is firmly in place-and it looks to my untrained eye to be in the right spot. I did email the seller this morning & inquire about the different chin rest,also letting him know that due to getting the blank bridge & not the original,(as he led me to believe I'd be getting) I'll be having to spend more $$ to get it set up properly. Never thought about downloading pics-in all my years on ebay I've never run into this situation. He has a top rating as a seller too,which made me trust him more & was why I purchased it. I'll keep you folks in the loop......
DougD - Posted - 03/11/2010: 07:43:33
A chinrest from Germany might actually be an improvement on this particular instrument. Also, since it still has a hangtag it may never have actually been properly set up, and its possible that may be the bridge that came with it. Let us know how it goes.
CelticRose - Posted - 03/11/2010: 07:45:22
I will! I asked Stewmac what size bridge for this one,and they suggested a 4/4.
DougD - Posted - 03/11/2010: 09:30:10
Since you have the blank, you might want to take a shot at fitting it yourself, so you can start playing, rather than spend more than you payed for the fiddle for a setup. There's been lots of information on this topic on this forum. If you mess it up its not the end of the world - blanks are cheap.
fiddlefire - Posted - 03/11/2010: 12:52:02
He gave you a blank that needs to be cut. Google search violin bridge templates. Its easier for me to say than do because I have been cutting bridges for years, but these templates may be able to help you. I use a exacto saw and sanding blocks. It does take a little practice but blanks are pretty cheap. And as well as a thought, I have never used them but you can get fitted bridges as well and since it a student violin one of those may come close enough. I think I saw them in Metropolitan musics catalogue. When Im off tomorrow I will see where I have seen them. You can go through there entire catalogue on line. Hope some of this helps if you dont get any where with the seller
Fiddlinman
CelticRose - Posted - 03/11/2010: 16:25:07
I wondered if I could do that-set up the blank myself.
I did write the seller,btw and can you say defensive? He got very uptight-I wrote to him from the "I'm confused angle" mentioned the chinrest, and that I thought I was getting a bridge that had been used on the instrument-that I could "string it & play" deal explaining now I'd have to spend more $$ to get it in playing shape,and he got rather testy-according to him,the orig chin rest was broke & wouldn't fit or stay on the instrument-funny,seeing as the photo of it shows the other chinrest on the fiddle as you'd expect. He was doing me a favor by sending me a different one,he says tho he gave me the "just send it back if u are unhappy & I'll refund" bit,saying that as he mentioned it might need setting up in the description (which he did) and made sure I understood this was the only 7/8 he had to sell. Now-as I am an eBay seller & have a store,I'm thinking if it was me doing this I would've written a note & placed it in the package making the chinrest an additional "perk" I wanted the customer to have a better quality chin rest and might have included the alleged broken original to show I wasn't being "full of it". I did write a reply stating that I am keeping the fiddle, wasn't after him for a refund,I was seeking clarification on a couple of things,and thanked him for his packing the violin so well,(which he did!) his quick reply & his understanding in this matter. 
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