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dzen - Posted - 02/08/2010: 14:18:23
Big Sciota that is. How is it pronounced? I've also seen it spelled Scioty. A friend has ancestors named Sciota and they pronounced it sy-oh-tah with the second syllable accented.
maple man - Posted - 02/08/2010: 15:43:30
I had wondered that myself. Thanks for the info and the great tune
groundhogpeggy - Posted - 02/08/2010: 16:02:00
I thought you meant scordatura, at first. yeah... the river... called si-ota, or si-oty if your in certain hollers, which would be hollows if you're someplace else.
mudbug - Posted - 02/08/2010: 16:54:07
So is this considered a BG or OT tune, or does it just depend on how you play it?
baylady - Posted - 02/08/2010: 17:31:09
Mudbug, it's in the BG category on FHO.
Lonesome Fiddler - Posted - 02/08/2010: 17:35:52
I play it as an old time tune, repeating the third phrase of the B part during the B's first runthrough just to give it that OT crookedness.
DougD - Posted - 02/08/2010: 17:49:00
Here's the story on this old time tune: ibiblio.org/fiddlers/BI_BILE.htm I think I learned it from the Hot Mud Family, but I could be wrong.
And baylady, you're right - you gotta like that bunch. Sometimes that series really got it (whatever "it" is).
Edited by - DougD on 02/08/2010 17:54:09
bsed - Posted - 02/08/2010: 17:49:34
Big Scioty bluegrass? No WAY! It's as OT as you can get!
BTW, our banjo player pronounces it SKEE-AA-TY
fiddlecraver - Posted - 02/08/2010: 20:37:00
bluegrass versions ive heard suck the life out of it
tango_grass - Posted - 02/08/2010: 22:41:39
I'm have to disagree with the anti bluegrass versions. There is no bad way to play this tune. Nice and peppy bluegrass style, or nice and slow and melodic, old time.
Russ Barenberg, Jerry Douglas and Edgar Meyer absolutely kill it on Hop, Skip, Wobble. If you don;t have that CD or version, run out and get it.
Big Sciota is a great tune.
Tobias - Posted - 02/09/2010: 02:29:22
I agree 100% with Fiddlecraver.
But the same can be said about some of the versions I have heard by new OT groups.
The old Burl og Sherman Hammons versions seems to be ignored by many these days.
/Tobias
DougD - Posted - 02/09/2010: 04:43:25
Tobias, I may be wrong, but I don't think the Hammons Family recordings are currently available, which doesn't help.
Tobias - Posted - 02/09/2010: 04:46:29
quote:
Originally posted by DougD
Tobias, I may be wrong, but I don't think the Hammons Family recordings are currently available, which doesn't help.
Good point  I have been waiting for ever for a release. Rounder said they might on Rounder Archive. /Tobias
DougD - Posted - 02/09/2010: 04:53:39
Rounder has made an arrangement with Amazon to provide "on demand" versions of some out-of-print titles, which seems promising. I've still got the LP set.
Tobias - Posted - 02/09/2010: 05:00:20
Sounds good.
I have a "non-official" version, but really want an original...especially for the extensive liner notes.
carlb - Posted - 02/09/2010: 05:46:15
quote:
Originally posted by Tobias
The old Burl og Sherman Hammons versions seems to be ignored by many these days.
/Tobias
Yes, I agree. After all, I, and many others, did learn it originally from how Burl played it. Carl
fiddlecraver - Posted - 02/09/2010: 08:24:09
I guess i made a strong statement there. Lol! Its just my knee jerk reaction to the bluerass versions Ive heard... something inside says NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! Im not antibluegrass. Just like any other genre, there are a few players who have the ability to cross into other genres effectively.
dzen - Posted - 02/09/2010: 15:38:06
Thanks for the link, Baylady, great version. What a great series of videos, I keep seeing new ones and it seems like they're all good. But I must admit that the tune that really hit me is a bluegrass version, I just heard it as a cheesy TablEdit MIDI file. This version is more Sally Ann-ish than the one I heard (not that there's anything wrong with that).
scrubber - Posted - 02/10/2010: 11:05:22
Thanks for starting this thread!
I've been asked to learn this tune, and I was hesitant (since I couldn't even SAY it, let alone play it)!
Now I can say it two or three (acceptable) ways and (thanks to the links) play it too!!
dave
MarkS - Posted - 02/26/2010: 14:43:52
Perhaps this is the same as baylady's, but since I can't follow that link, I thought I would throw in my two cents...
My favorite version is a clip from the Trans-Atlantic series. Filmed at Mountgreenan Mansion House Hotel in Troon, Ayrshire Scotland.
Aly Bain - Fiddle
Jay Ungar - Fiddle
Molly Mason - Bass
Russ Barenberg - Guitar
Jim Sutherland - Bodhrán
Jerry Douglas - Lap Steel Guitar
Brilliant playing, whether a fan of this style or not, it is flawless, and they look like they're just having so much fun playing it. I wish they had mic'd the guitar better, lots of cool stuff going on in his riff. plus... you can watch it in 480p
youtube.com/watch?v=7LVnjQwUXrA
ironworker - Posted - 02/26/2010: 15:00:44
sends a shiver to think that recordings as important as the Hammons' are out of print.
to me, that means " if you've got it, share it".
bj - Posted - 02/26/2010: 15:19:27
Is everyone SURE that it's named after the River? I'm asking because there's an ancient village in PA named Sciota. Though the "big" would seem to imply a river.
carlb - Posted - 02/26/2010: 22:22:42
quote:
Originally posted by bj
Is everyone SURE that it's named after the River? I'm asking because there's an ancient village in PA named Sciota. Though the "big" would seem to imply a river.
On the Hammons Rounder record the title is: The Big Scioty Have no idea who came up with the spelling Sciota.
MarkS - Posted - 02/27/2010: 04:10:17
The title of this song always makes me think of the "Road Runner" cartoon and it's villain...
Wile E. Scioty...
Sorry. I couldn't help myself...
fiddlinshim - Posted - 02/27/2010: 12:36:39
Pronunciation? It's common in some places for names that end in 'a' to be said with 'ie'. Phoeba Parsons, e.g., is pronounced "Phoebe", and I'll bet that Berzilla Wallin was always called Berzillie. I have a friend in Carter County, TN who lives on Sciota Road, which is pronounced Sigh-oh-tha, with a light emphasis on the 'oh'.
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